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Post by babclayman on Feb 19, 2015 3:56:42 GMT -5
It is possible she has some lnk to the Dearly Dalmatians, since she is in the Gruteley area.
Though, I don't think she is a drected relation to the Dearly Dalmatians, cause of the Devil Ville Curse, and there be a lot of generations with her and the presnt. A lng Cousin, Maybe, but nt say...and Great Grand Parent.
Can be a reason why the Dearly Dalmatians, are in Gruteley County, cause of the job of the crriage Dalmatians? You Know what I mean, Pups? ;3
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Post by Belchic on Feb 19, 2015 16:48:36 GMT -5
I still don't know how everybody seems to understand this episode perfectly except for me. Am I the only one who thinks this episode is logically confusing? Apparently because just about everyone is calling me an idiot for not understanding it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 17:37:49 GMT -5
It's not really that hard to understand really, but I know what you mean by not following on what's going on.
If you are talking about how were Lucky, Cadpig, Spot, Rolly, Anita, Roger, Scorch and Cruella able to go back in time? Was because DeVilVille can appear every 100 years in Gruteley, that's where the fog comes in thus letting them go back where Cruella's Ancestor Dimmesdale DeVil lives, as seen in one of the portraits in DeVil Manor.
If Scorch wasn't in DeVilVille, I apologize, it's been a while since I've seen the episode.
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Post by babclayman on Feb 19, 2015 17:41:55 GMT -5
As Shawn claims, it isn’t the Dearly Dalmatians, Spot, Humans or Cruella that are trying the Time Travel, it’s Devil Ville that is. Since, the Witch; Hester Hen is trying to protect the World from Judge Devil.
May I ask, what cases puzzle you on the Episode, Belchic?
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Post by Belchic on Mar 7, 2015 19:16:30 GMT -5
As Shawn claims, it isn’t the Dearly Dalmatians, Spot, Humans or Cruella that are trying the Time Travel, it’s Devil Ville that is. Since, the Witch; Hester Hen is trying to protect the World from Judge Devil. May I ask, what cases puzzle you on the Episode, Belchic? I think I already told you several times what it is about this episode that confuses me, but every time I did, you always called me an idiot for being so confused about it!
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Post by babclayman on Mar 7, 2015 19:53:33 GMT -5
I never clled you an Idiot, Belchic.
What is claim is that you would likely hear the reasons on your questions, when you watch the Episode.
But, Like I ask, You can claim what confuses you, and I can tell you the reasons on them, and where in the Episode it may be addressd too.
What confuses you, on the Episode, Belchic?
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Post by Belchic on Mar 8, 2015 0:59:16 GMT -5
Au contraire, bab. You HAVE called me an idiot! Here is some proof: Belchic, This...Is just... you're arguments make NO Sense.I mean, Spot didn't even cure the curse til about, 3/4 way through the Episode. If it was resolved in the first Ten Minutes, than maybe it would be rushed. Also, Note the Witches name would be, "Hen", meaning she likes Chickens. I mean, if you were putting a curse on a town, however didn't want your friend to be hurt by it, you make sure the curse wouldn't hurt them, would you? Also! SPOT EXPLAINS HOW SHE GUESSED, KISSING WOULD WORK! She based it off a, Fairy Tale. Also, I guess it's cause, you're getting escense of Chicken on you when she kisses you. I mean, Fairy Tales may not make sense, but you don't bash those, do you? Also, Cruella claims she was walking Scorch, she never mentioned she saw the Mist! Also, It wasn't a dream, The curse would also remove memory of, Devil Ville to those who escape, Spot exclueded as she was a chicken. I mean, Hesso even knows that point! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT! Belchic... YOU'RE ARGUMENTS MAKE NO SENSE!Just cause you're a critic, doesn't mean you have to Bash. A Real Critic would, Look at the Good Points, along with the Negative. I mean let's say...Tom & Jerry Movie. While T&J movie is written bad and the main characters are always upsatged...The animation is nice. THAT IS REAL CRITICISM. THIS...You bash more than a Hammer does in a thousand years. This is practically one of the BEST Episodes of "101 Dalmatians The Series". Good Writing, Good Back Story, A somewhat Original Idea and good Direction and Acting. Seriously though Belchic...You are trying WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Too hard to critic. It just makes you look like a whiny person. Besides, Everything you complained about IS EXPLAINED! Ask ANYONE, and they will say, it is explained. Still, Good Episode and Your arguments make NO SENSE. Fun Fact though, One of the Actresses from, Bewitched, Voices, Rebecca. X3 You said THREE TIMES in that post you made towards me: "Your arguments make no sense!" How do you expect me not to take that as an insult?Anyway, if you must know again, these are the aspects of this episode that confuse me that I felt were never explained in the episode: 1. Rebecca's backstory is never explained. We never learn anything about her or where she came from. We don't know if she was originally a resident of De Vil Ville or if she came from another century and was trapped in the town due to the curse. 2. How come we don't see other people from possibly other centuries in the town? And why didn't the pups save them too? 3. I can understand the witch having the town disappear only to return once a century to keep the world safe from the evilness of Dimsdale, but why did she put a love curse on it? 4. Why does the witch remind me of Nanny? 5. I can understand the witch liking chickens, but that's a poor excuse to make chickens immune to the curse. It's not like all who walk into the town are gonna die! 6. Dimsdale tells Cruella that members of the De Vil family are also immune to the curse, but the witch never said that, so how does he know the cause and effect of everything? 7. I still think Spot found the cure for the curse way too quickly, and it was a completely random guess! I understand it was a fairy tale cliché, but come on! It's obvious the writers were cutting corners to have the episode fit the 22-minute time limit! 8. Spot changes Rebecca's personality by kissing her. See #1. 9. After De Vil Ville disappears, everyone's memories of it were completely erased from their minds. Spot assumed it may be part of the witch's curse, but in the flashback, the witch never said anything about escapees of De Vil Ville getting memories of it wiped from their heads. Just because Spot assumed that was the case, that doesn't mean it's true! (Seriously, that make as much sense as me assuming Godzilla is real with no concrete evidence, and therefore I'm right!) 10. Spot thought that she could refresh the pups' memories by kissing them, and they ran away screaming. Obviously, they must have some recollection of that if they were to do that! Granted, I would probably do the same thing if Spot was trying to kiss me, but if the pups remember Spot kissing them, why don't they remember anything else? Now does this make sense, bab? Do you think you can at least try to accept my arguments without calling me an idiot? Also, could you please try to respect my opinion for once?
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Post by babclayman on Mar 8, 2015 9:03:51 GMT -5
But you claim I ws clling you an; “Idiot”, which I DIDN’T in that post. I ws claiming that your arguments were flwed.
There’s a difference between; “There are flaws in your argument” and; “You’re an idiot!”, Notice that?
And to answer your questions.
One; Rebecca is one of the Inhabitants of Devil Ville! She states herself that she is one of Judge Dimsdale Devil’s Carriage Hounds; So, her Backstory is likely the same as any one in Devil Ville!
Two; Well, since Devil Ville is in the middle of the Twenty Acres of the Dearly Farm, it is probably unlikely that anyone else happen to stumble on it. I mean, the Dearly’s and Dalmatians only stumble on it, cause they are on a Picnic, on their own property. So, it’s probably unlikely anyone else happen to find the town, especially considering it only appears for one day every hundred years. And the reason the Dalmatians didn’ help them is likely that; They don’ know if anyone else is in the Town, is from another time, and even then, if they did help, they’d be in a time that they be unfamiliar with. And there’s also that factor of time! The Dalmatians, Dearly’s & Cruella only jst got ot of Devil Ville, by the time the sun set, so it’s likely they’d be trpped too, if they stppd to kiss everyone!
Three; As Hester Hen states; “May the inhabitants of the town be Mindlessly Happy, to make the Evil Devil more miserable by comparison.”
So, if you mean on Lucky in Love with Rebecca, it can be the curse having Lucky be happy, like the others in the Town, but the Episode also suggests there is some genuine affection in there too.
Four; I think Hester Hen looking like Nanny is intentional, since she also has Nanny’s voice too. It can be possible that this is an Ancestor to Nanny, Maybe?
Five; As the Episodes show, Hestern Hen is a friend to Chickens, and it was her Chicken who suggested that Chickens aren’ affected. I mean, would you want your family to also be trapped in the town and curse too?
Six; I think what they mean by the Curse is, the one to be Happy. As I mention, it’s the inhabitants of the Town who are curse to be Happy; “To make the Evil Devil more Miserable in comparison.” The Curse that applies to Devil is that he’s bound in the Town’s Boarders. So, since Judge Dimsdale Devil isn’ the one curse to be happy, he’s more aware of what’s happening.
Seven; As Spot mentions, she guesses it from various stories about Spells and Curses. So, it’s more like Spot being Genre Svvy on this type of case. And she did try various items frst, like the Blackboard or Water in their face, Didn’ she?
Eight; Like I mention, the Inhabitants were curse to be Happy, so it’s not that Spot altrs Rebecca’s Personality, it’s that since Spot lfts the “Mndlessly Happy” Curse on her, that is her normal Personality coming bck.
Nine; Well, it’s likely that she may have claim more, as we onl heard of what the Curse is, by Flashback. Or, maybe since the Curse is also to have the World Safe from; “The Evil Devil”, it may also apply to any knowledge of the town or what happen to it too, as it is possible the Devil’s may try something, when the town appears in the future? That likely?
Ten; I don’ think the Dalmatians remember Spot kissing them in the Town. Like you mention, if someone you know randomly strted charging towrds you, yelling; “KISS ME!”, you probably be freakd ot too, You Know?
These answer some items that confuse you, Belchic? ;3
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Post by Belchic on Mar 8, 2015 14:36:35 GMT -5
Yes, a lot of this makes more sense now, bab. Though I still think it could have been explained a little better in the episode. I'm still not buying the whole, "I assume, therefore it's true." thing.
I still argue that Spot broke the curse way too soon. It would have been more interesting if she went and did some research to find out what the cure is. Actually, I think it would have been more interesting if the curse was like AIDS or Cancer or Diabetes, as in its incurable...or would that not be good?
As for the calling me an idiot case, let's just say that you indirectly called me an idiot. The fact that you said "Your arguments make no sense!" three times in the same post, I was greatly offended by that and took it as an insult. What if I asked you what the purpose of meaning was, and I called you a moron because you didn't know; you'd be hurt, wouldn't you?
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Post by babclayman on Mar 8, 2015 17:51:25 GMT -5
Well, Like I mention, a lot of what I explain is mention in the Episode. Though, when one looks at a Time Travel Story, one does need to pay attention. It happens in a lot of films, shows or stories, that show Time Travel.
Also, Spot did do research on the Curse. She look up the Year that Judge Dimsdale Devil should be in, in Villa Devil, and she ws there when Judge Dimsdale Devil explain about the History of Devil Ville to Cruella, so Spot does know what us. The does count as research, Correct?
Also, considering the time aspect, I don’ think Spot would have hd the time to learn what there is about Curses, so she guesses a kss may work.
Also, doesn’ having some ideas of how Spells or Curses may work in some stories also count as a bit of research too, Belchic? ;3
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Post by babclayman on Mar 15, 2015 20:25:22 GMT -5
I jst learn that the voice of; Judge Dimsdale Devil is; Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.! Who is also the voice of Alfred, in the Batmn Animation Show!
Though, I do wonder; We know Aice Ghostley is in the Episode. But, is she the voice of Rebecca or the voice of Hester Hen?
The Disney Wiki claims Rebecca is voice by Kath Soucie, though if Alice voices Hester Hen, that would count as an Performer Homage, as she also appears in Bewitchd!
So, Does Alice Ghostley voice Rebecca or Hestern Hen? What you Pups think? ;3
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Post by babclayman on Mar 18, 2015 7:23:57 GMT -5
What you Pups think on the Alice Ghostley case?
She voice Rebecca, or is that Kath Souce, with Alice as Heater Hen?
What you think, Pups? ;3
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Post by Two-Tone on Sept 29, 2015 19:41:25 GMT -5
I found that alice ghostey voiced Hester Hen, kath soucie did Rebecca's voice
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Post by Belchic on Sept 29, 2015 19:48:49 GMT -5
I found that alice ghostey voiced Hester Hen, kath soucie did Rebecca's voice Where did you hear that? Are you sure Hester Hen wasn't Charlotte Ray?
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Post by Two-Tone on Sept 29, 2015 20:44:30 GMT -5
I think it's on the 101 Dalmatians wiki, if not the Disney wiki
I know for sure Rebecca's voiced by Kath Soucie since she sounds like Cadpig with a Scottish accent.
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