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Post by Belchic on Jan 20, 2013 16:55:07 GMT -5
I am not entirely sure, but I think you are the one who seems to enforce a "101 Dalmatians" has Little Fans thing on TVTropes, Belchic. Like I tell you, entitled to Opinions, but not your own Facts. So, don't try to force your opinion on a small fanbase, Please? (If possible, can you edit any demeaning items, you addedon whether people like it or not, out? =s) You the ones who edit those pages like that on TVTropes? That doesn't mean I think the show sucks! Also, it is NOT my opinion! It is a flat out fact! The show never was popular, it never has been, and it never will be. Will you stop trying to convince me that this show was a phenomenon like "My Lille Pony: Friendship is Magic", "Spongebob Squarepants", "The Simpsons" and "The Flintstones"? Also, quit using those awards it won as an excuse to convince me it's popular! If the show was popular, people all over the world would still be talking about it today, and there'd be merchandise all over the world based off of it. I'm really getting sick and tired of having these arguments with you, bab. You're telling me this is a bad idea, yet you went ahead and made that Homages page, which I find just as unnecessary as my suggestion.
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Post by RaceFanX on Jan 20, 2013 19:21:26 GMT -5
Also, it is NOT my opinion! It is a flat out fact! The show never was popular, it never has been, and it never will be. Will you stop trying to convince me that this show was a phenomenon like "My Lille Pony: Friendship is Magic", "Spongebob Squarepants", "The Simpsons" and "The Flintstones"?...If the show was popular, people all over the world would still be talking about it today, and there'd be merchandise all over the world based off of it.
Time's change Belchic and so does what's popular. No one plays with Pogs or watches the movie 'Titanic' with a straight face anymore. Just because something was popular once doesn't mean that popularity is forever, FAME IS FLEETING! When's the last time you listened to a Sinead O'Connor CD or tuned into "L.A. Law?" Just in your examples the Flintstones is off Cartoon Network for good and out of syndication, MLP is a current fad yet to fade out, the Simpsons is long over-the-hill from its highest popularity in the early-to-mid 1990s and SpongeBob is widely considered to be on its last legs due to Nickelodeon's over-reliance on it leading to low network ratings.
Some cool things remain cool for years but most don't. For every Beatles or James Bond there's 40 flash in the pans like the New Kids on the Block, Blaxploitation and the Pepsi Challenge.
'101' was never a cultural phenomenon, except for the original animated and live-action movies, but it did well for its time and is better remembered and more repeated than a lot of its contemporaries. When's the last time anyone watched or visited a fan message board for "Teacher's Pet," "Quack Pack" or "Lloyd in Space?" And that's just Disney, Warner Brothers and FOX had a ton of animated shows in that era bombed and were completely forgotten like "Iggy and the Cockroaches" or "The Legend of Calamity Jane." 101 aged better than a lot of 1990s cartoons as well, it easily came back on Disney Junior recently while so many other cartoons are so stuck in the 1990s they'll likely never air again like again "Quack Pack."
Just because something wasn't super popular doesn't mean it sucks and you going around talking like that about the show is misleading. no question. Bab didn't take one of your suggestions, justifably as a page on Homages provides info like a wiki should (never noticed the subway train before) but a darkhorse one is opinions and not used on any wikis, is no real to mouth off out of jealousy.
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Post by Belchic on Jan 20, 2013 21:22:02 GMT -5
'101' was never a cultural phenomenon, except for the original animated and live-action movies, but it did well for its time and is better remembered and more repeated than a lot of its contemporaries. When's the last time anyone watched or visited a fan message board for "Teacher's Pet," "Quack Pack" or "Lloyd in Space?" And that's just Disney, Warner Brothers and FOX had a ton of animated shows in that era bombed and were completely forgotten like "Iggy and the Cockroaches" or "The Legend of Calamity Jane." 101 aged better than a lot of 1990s cartoons as well, it easily came back on Disney Junior recently while so many other cartoons are so stuck in the 1990s they'll likely never air again like again "Quack Pack." I'm pretty sure 101 is on the same level of popularity and memorabilia as all those other shows you mentioned in that paragraph right there.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jan 21, 2013 0:16:17 GMT -5
I'm going to add some more.
Back in 1991 The Ren and Stimpy Show was a highly popular show but it started to really suck after Season 2.
Suppose after My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is cancelled and then it reverts back to what it originally was remembered for being. Is the franchise stilll going to be popular? I doubt it.
Back in the 2000s everyone seemed to think Pixar was indestructible. Year after year their animated films would win critical acclaim, box-office gold and they would win the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature (with the only hold outs being Monsters, Inc. and Cars). Plus, two of their movies were nominated for Best Picture. All that seemed to change once we got Cars 2. Brave was an improvement but hardly their best work and no one seems to be looking forward to Monsters University.
Just some things to keep in mind.
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Post by Belchic on Jan 21, 2013 0:30:06 GMT -5
Brilliant points you made about Pixar there, Trey.
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Post by babclayman on Jan 21, 2013 10:22:18 GMT -5
Also, it is NOT my opinion! It is a flat out fact! The show never was popular, it never has been, and it never will be. Will you stop trying to convince me that this show was a phenomenon like "My Lille Pony: Friendship is Magic", "Spongebob Squarepants", "The Simpsons" and "The Flintstones"?...If the show was popular, people all over the world would still be talking about it today, and there'd be merchandise all over the world based off of it.Time's change Belchic and so does what's popular. No one plays with Pogs or watches the movie 'Titanic' with a straight face anymore. Just because something was popular once doesn't mean that popularity is forever, FAME IS FLEETING! When's the last time you listened to a Sinead O'Connor CD or tuned into "L.A. Law?" Just in your examples the Flintstones is off Cartoon Network for good and out of syndication, MLP is a current fad yet to fade out, the Simpsons is long over-the-hill from its highest popularity in the early-to-mid 1990s and SpongeBob is widely considered to be on its last legs due to Nickelodeon's over-reliance on it leading to low network ratings. Some cool things remain cool for years but most don't. For every Beatles or James Bond there's 40 flash in the pans like the New Kids on the Block, Blaxploitation and the Pepsi Challenge. '101' was never a cultural phenomenon, except for the original animated and live-action movies, but it did well for its time and is better remembered and more repeated than a lot of its contemporaries. When's the last time anyone watched or visited a fan message board for "Teacher's Pet," "Quack Pack" or "Lloyd in Space?" And that's just Disney, Warner Brothers and FOX had a ton of animated shows in that era bombed and were completely forgotten like "Iggy and the Cockroaches" or "The Legend of Calamity Jane." 101 aged better than a lot of 1990s cartoons as well, it easily came back on Disney Junior recently while so many other cartoons are so stuck in the 1990s they'll likely never air again like again "Quack Pack." Just because something wasn't super popular doesn't mean it sucks and you going around talking like that about the show is misleading. no question. Bab didn't take one of your suggestions, justifably as a page on Homages provides info like a wiki should (never noticed the subway train before) but a darkhorse one is opinions and not used on any wikis, is no real to mouth off out of jealousy. Thanks for defending my point, Race. ;3 You do have a point on the Fame is fleeting part; I mean remember all the fuss Avatar made when it came out? Who actually talks about that movie these days? "101 Dalmatians" has aged good since the Franchise is one of Disney's more contempoary Films. And like said, just because "The Series" hasn't got acclaim like say, Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, doesn't mean we should be ashamed of watching it or that it sucks. Remember "The Series" did win Two Awards, one for "Excellence in Media" and "Best Sound Editing", so it shows some Achievements. And on the Darkhorse idea, again like Race states, that is mainly down to Opinion. There have been occassions where some have written on the Wiki about Two-Tone or Rebecca, and I've had to fix it so that what it says about them isn't One Sided to a certain Ship. In fact, I've even had to make a small part of Pepper's Bio about his Gender ambiguity (but supported it with showing that in two stories, they are refered to as both Male & a Female). Homages can be added because it's actual based on what you see in The Show. Like mentioned on the Homages page, Mel Brooks has confirmed that any mention to a Dog named Pongo or Perdita in his films is an intentional "101 Dalmatians" reference, since he is a fan of the film and names his dogs after them. I don't think MLP:FIM Wiki has a Darkhorse Page, but if one does exsist, feel free to show me. However on the 'Fan Base' point, going around saying that it has hardly any fans is pretty misleading and may stir away those who might actually become fans of the Franchise themselves, if they decide to watch it. A Lot of Great shows have Cult Followings so we could consider it a "Darkhorse Show" if you get what I mean?
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Post by Belchic on Jan 21, 2013 15:10:14 GMT -5
Thanks for defending my point, Race. ;3 You do have a point on the Fame is fleeting part; I mean remember all the fuss Avatar made when it came out? Who actually talks about that movie these days? Well, true, nobody talks about it anymore, but at least at the time, it was still popular. 101 Dalmatians was not the same, though. While the series was active and in production, practically 99% of the world ignored it. Well, that may be true. I'm not saying that at all. I seriously don't know why every time I say, "The show is not popular," you guys always think I'm saying, "I hate the show," or "You're not allowed to like it." We've been over this a million times, so I wish you guys would just drop it already! Um, bab? Didn't you read my whole post? I clearly said... "Quit using those awards it won as an excuse to convince me it's popular."Right here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/EnsembleDarkhorse/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicI didn't say it has no fans at all. I'm just saying that it has only a few fans and just not as much compared to major cult classics like Spongebob. ...I guess.
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Post by babclayman on Feb 5, 2013 11:35:54 GMT -5
Oooh, Boy.
I am not entirely sure who it is, but on the Wiki, there is this Guest who constantly edits Patch’s Page.
Despite the Fact his Bio already has an “Allies” line to it, They are just insistent on adding a “Minions: His Siblings” line in! I along with another helpful Guest have been undoing their “Minion” lines for days, and yet they don’t seem to be getting the message.
I’ve even tried explaining that “Minions is something a Villain would have, Besides we already have a line for "Allies" which is the more Protagonist form of it.”
I am not entirely sure who keeps adding the Minion line, but it’s times like this, I wish I was an Admin on the Wiki, so I could lock the Patch page.
I am not sure who the Head Admin on the Wiki is (I think it could be Taren), but considering how quiet he’s been, I am actually considering doing a Wikia Adoption.
You think I should or any ideas on who could be adding this “Minion” Line?
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Post by babclayman on Mar 2, 2013 13:06:56 GMT -5
I am thinking of putting in an Adoption Request for the “101 Dalmatians Wiki”.
Think I should Adopt it then, Pups?
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Post by Shadow Dearly on Mar 2, 2013 13:49:46 GMT -5
If you want to adopt the 101D Wiki, then it's your full right to do so.
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Post by babclayman on Apr 26, 2013 7:52:57 GMT -5
Well, I am getting more problems on the Wikia.
Some fellow keeps coming on and has made a Page where Jock is named Duck!
I have tried informing them on numerous occasions, the name is Jock, not Duck, but this seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
I am seriously asking whether to Adopt the Wikia or not, so I may do something about this (not sure where the Admin to that Wikia is. =s )
Should I, Pups?
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Post by Trey_Vore on Apr 26, 2013 14:14:34 GMT -5
Well, I have the general fan cclub on DeviantART. Go ahead.
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Post by Belchic on Apr 27, 2013 1:41:37 GMT -5
Well, I am getting more problems on the Wikia. Some fellow keeps coming on and has made a Page where Jock is named Duck! I have tried informing them on numerous occasions, the name is Jock, not Duck, but this seems to have fallen on deaf ears. I am seriously asking whether to Adopt the Wikia or not, so I may do something about this (not sure where the Admin to that Wikia is. =s ) Should I, Pups? Since you're the admin of that page, you could block his IP address. Ever try doing that?
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Post by babclayman on Apr 27, 2013 5:37:44 GMT -5
I would, Belchic...But I'm not an Admin on there! I would Block that IP Address, if I could.
If I was an Admin on there, I wouldn't be considering Adopting it. Taren is the Head Admin right? Where has he been lately?
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Post by Belchic on Apr 27, 2013 13:29:02 GMT -5
If I was an Admin on there, I wouldn't be considering Adopting it. Why not, bab? If I may ask?
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