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Post by Stirfry on Aug 10, 2013 19:01:38 GMT -5
true, though given Mooch fell for Cadpig in My Fair Moochie that probably would have destroyed their relationship (she'd be forgiving toward Cadpig but not as much so to Mooch), also Two-Tone almost voted guilty on Mooch in Twelve Angry Pups but she didn't due to her indecisive nature. That and in the episode Walk on the Wildside she wasn't there to bully Rolly while the rest of the gang did (that and I doubt Rolly would have stolen her earring either less answer to Lucky for it) I do also believe she didn't show much signs of bullying in Bad to the Bone even though the other pups stepped away from her and the rest of the gang (that and she was afraid of Cydney the Snake due to Rolly lying about killing him) I also agree with Paws about the love/hate relationship between Mooch and Two-Tone (Mooch did insult Two-Tone in Love em and flea em though he also tried to sabotage Lucky so he wouldn't date Two-Tone that night, and the examples I've shown before with Tones almost finding Mooch guilty in Twelve Angry Pups and the MoochXCadpig episode My Fair Moochie)though I think that would ultimately lead to Tones finding love with Lucky though not instantly but given time. Hm... interesting. I don't know about My fair moochie. In fact I'm not even sure they were together in that episode. She wasn't mentioned at all. If they were together then that probably would have ended their relationship at that point. But it is unsure if she would have gotten back with him afterwards. I feel she would have gotten back to together with him unless she found new friends during that time. As I said the bully thing was probably a need to fit in and could have been replaced with new friends. But I do see a possibility of a relationship with Lucky during that episode. There could have been a whole story behind the story of Lucky trying to comfort Two Tone after mooch leaves her for cadpig which could have lead to romance. Though in bad to the bone she was part of the gang so we must assume she was a bully. One does not become part of a bully gang without being one. And in 12 angry pups she did say he was cute too. But she wasn't with the others during the time of the theft. Which means that she wasn't in the gang since I highly doubt they would put a member of his gang on the jury.
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Post by Two-Tone on Aug 10, 2013 19:46:22 GMT -5
those are good points General. And I also agree with you about Lucky going to comfort Two-tone after the events of My Fair Moochie. And like I said I don't think Two-Tone would have ill feelings toward Cadpig even though she did just use Mooch then dumped him for El-Diablo, Mooch however did show legit feelings for Cadpig which I've noticed in the episode too. That and Two-Tone didn't appear in My Fair Moochie at all.
General that is a valid point, Tones wouldn't have been in the jury if she was still in the gang, though that does leave the credibility of Dipstick since he was in the gang and Lucky called him as a witness to testify against Mooch. Though Dipstick did break down in tears and basically confessed that Mooch did it though he probably did it out of fear.
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Post by babclayman on Aug 11, 2013 9:27:43 GMT -5
Well, you often do get that trope of "Girls Want The Bad Boy". So perhaps that's what Two-Tone's doing there. She fancies Mooch and hangs around with him from time to time.
I myself believe that "Twelve Angry Pups" is set before Two-Tone joins Mooch's Gang. Seeing Mooch on Trial and finding him Cute is what convinces her to join, maybe?
Although, Aside from being Mooch's Dame, What does Two-Tone serve in Mooch's Gang?
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Post by Two-Tone on Aug 11, 2013 15:57:18 GMT -5
probably being the eye candy, the girl in the gang. Besides the fact she never bullied anybody on the farm and was generally more friendlier than Mooch, Dipstick, and Wizzer were to the other pups (mostly toward Lucky and Cadpig)
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Post by Belchic on Aug 13, 2013 18:52:06 GMT -5
I think Lucky and Two-Tone have both been in multiple love interests. Like for example: there was Lucky with Rebecca (as TT pointed out) and Lucky was with Dumpling twice, both times Lucky didn't want anything to do with it.
Going back on topic: Two-Tone did show that she had a crush on Mooch in "Love 'Em and Flea 'Em" and "Twelve Angry Pups", and she also showed some kind of love interest toward Rolly in "Roll Out the Pork Barrel". When she read the invitation to the other main pups, she said Rolly's name in kind of a dreamy sigh, plus the two of them made a little connection immediately after that.
As for Two-Tone being a bully, there were only three episodes where Two-Tone was actually in Mooch's gang: "Love 'Em and Flea 'Em", "Bad to the Bone" and "Citizen Kanine". All the other times we saw Mooch's gang, Two-Tone wasn't with them.
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Post by Stirfry on Aug 13, 2013 19:20:39 GMT -5
I think Lucky and Two-Tone have both been in multiple love interests. Like for example: there was Lucky with Rebecca (as TT pointed out) and Lucky was with Dumpling twice, both times Lucky didn't want anything to do with it. Going back on topic: Two-Tone did show that she had a crush on Mooch in "Love 'Em and Flea 'Em" and "Twelve Angry Pups", and she also showed some kind of love interest toward Rolly in "Roll Out the Pork Barrel". When she read the invitation to the other main pups, she said Rolly's name in kind of a dreamy sigh, plus the two of them made a little connection immediately after that. As for Two-Tone being a bully, there were only three episodes where Two-Tone was actually in Mooch's gang: "Love 'Em and Flea 'Em", "Bad to the Bone" and "Citizen Kanine". All the other times we saw Mooch's gang, Two-Tone wasn't with them. Saying Two Tone had a love interest in Rolly because she said his name "in kind of a dreamy sigh." seems like a pretty far stretch. I certainly didn't interpret it that way. Anyway you have to admit that's 2 more times we saw her with mooch than Lucky. But yes, she definitely wasn't in the gang the whole series. So there are 2 possibilities. Either she left the gang sometime during the series... or she joined the gang sometime during the series. Since the episodes are all out of order anyway we can never tell for sure.
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Post by babclayman on Aug 14, 2013 10:23:29 GMT -5
I always interpreted it that 'Twelve Angry Pups' comes first in the 'Two-Tone In Mooch's Gang Saga', 'Bad To The Bone' & 'Citizen Canine' somewhere between there, before reaching the case at "Love 'Em, Flea 'Em".
That make sense in context?
Also, I guess the reason Two-Tone said Rolly's name dreamily because either that's her normal manner of speaking or that she admires the case that he's somewhat in Political Power. Could that be it?
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Post by Belchic on Aug 14, 2013 10:44:22 GMT -5
Personally, I can't think of any possible reason as to why Two-Tone and Rolly should be paired up. Maybe because their both chubby Dals, even though Rolly is clearly twice as big as her. Well, either way, Two-Tone is the heaviest of Perdita's female pups...at least as far as we know.
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Post by babclayman on Aug 14, 2013 10:50:09 GMT -5
So, you're saying a Chubby Pup is only allowed to date a Chubby Pup?
I admit that the first time I heard of Two-Tone, I wasn't sure if it was "Tone" or "Tons" in her name and some really old Fics, I wrote described her as a Female version of Rolly. Has any other Author done that?
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Post by Belchic on Aug 14, 2013 11:45:55 GMT -5
So, you're saying a Chubby Pup is only allowed to date a Chubby Pup? No! Not at all! Where did you get that idea? I was just saying that being chubby is something that those two have in common. Seriously, bab, I was a bit offended by that!
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Post by babclayman on Jan 13, 2014 11:45:43 GMT -5
I have a thought about Two-Tone.
As we know, in "101 Dalmatians The Series", she has an Ear Ring. What I ask though is, Is it an actual piercing (and if so did Roger & Anita permit it?) or is it actually a Clip On Ear Ring?
I'm mainly thinking for the latter, but what do you Pups think?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 18:39:19 GMT -5
Regardless, it's pretty obvious she is affiliated with and doesn't seem to mind the bullying her male counterparts dish out. I mean in Walk on the Wild Side she said nothing and stood by while Mooch stole Rolly's bone and called him names, even grinning when he called him "wide guy". So maybe she didn't bully but she sure didn't try to stop MOOCH from bullying.
It seemed to me like it was all perfectly okay and she even sort of adored Mooch until she perceived him snubbing her in Love Em and Flea Em. Then it was like screw you, Imma date your worst enemy AND get a cute new date out of the deal. I personally think it's possible that Two-Tone was intended to be Lucky's girlfriend until they realized it was a big red incest flag and just cut her to being in the background because of it.
If we realllllly want to get technical, Lucky himself doesn't seem all that interested in romance period. When Cadpig asks point-blank in the episode Swing Song if they'd ever felt "the pang of l'amour", Lucky only says "I had ringworm." If he was really intended to have a crush on Two-tone or whatev, I'd think he'd have mentioned her. But he doesn't. xP In fact he makes almost zero references to her or any other girl, or even act like he's in love with anyone. He seems more focused on having fun, being a puppy and foiling Cruella's plans.
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Post by babclayman on Jan 22, 2014 18:42:39 GMT -5
Well...This seemed to come right out of nowhere. o.o
Although, Like mentioned above, Is Two-Tone's Ear Ring a Real one (and if so, why Roger & Anita allowed it) or is it merely a clip on?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 18:44:16 GMT -5
Well considering Rolly had the same kind of earring in Walk on the Wild Side, it's probably a clip on ring. Since he doesn't show any holes in his ears or anything to indicate he was wearing a real piercing. Probably the same for Two-tone.
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Post by Sweeney Terrier on Feb 11, 2014 9:49:45 GMT -5
Just asking but in human years, how old is Two-Tone?
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