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Post by Paws on Feb 14, 2014 2:07:19 GMT -5
I know we have the Five Man Band topic here, so I figured "why not?" The Four Man Band and Four Temperament Ensemble work in close proximity with one another, in terms of character development and relationships. The 'Band determines the characters' roles in the group, while the ensemble helps to define just how they act with one another, as well as other people. TV Tropes defines a Four Man Band with these four tropes: Only Sane Man, The Smart Guy, The Pervert, and The Butt Monkey. More information can be found here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourManBandThey also define the Four Temperament Ensemble in accordance to four (or five in certain cases) diverse personalities: sanguine, choleric, melancholic, phlegmatic, and leukine. More information can be found here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourTemperamentEnsembleAllow me to give you a few examples... The Main PupsFour-Man BandOnly Sane Man: Spot The Smart Guy: Cadpig The Pervert: Lucky The Butt Monkey: Rolly (Note that TV Tropes has Cadpig as The Pervert and Lucky as The Smart Guy, but I think it's more fitting the other way around) Four-Temperament EnsembleLucky: Choleric Rolly: Phlegmatic Cadpig: Sanguine Spot: Melancholic The Quartet (my characters) Four-Man BandOnly Sane Man: Ariel The Smart Guy: Luca/Quentin The Pervert: Goose The Butt Monkey: Quentin/Luca Four Temperament EnsembleAriel: Choleric Quentin: Melancholic Goose: Sanguine Luca: Phlegmatic Mooch's GangFour-Man BandOnly Sane Man: Mooch The Smart Guy: Wizzer The Pervert: Two-Tone The Butt Monkey: Dipstick Four-Temperament EnsembleMooch: Choleric Two-Tone: Sanguine Dipstick: Phlegmatic Wizzer: Melancholic I'm looking forward to seeing your guys' contributions!!
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Post by Belchic on Feb 15, 2014 17:04:59 GMT -5
How do you think Lucky is the pervert? I don't recall him doing anything remotely-perverted in the series. I still think Cadpig is most worthy of that title.
As for Mooch's gang, how is Two-Tone the pervert?
For my main 4, I guess it would be...
Only Sane Man: Tippy Smart Guy: Noggin Pervert: Belchic Butt Monkey: Joey
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Post by Paws on Feb 15, 2014 23:21:18 GMT -5
For both Lucky and Two-Tone, I based it off of the fact that at least 50% of their relations and character in General comes from their love interests. Love 'Em and Flea 'Em and DeVil-Age Elder both have plots concerned with the romantic relations of at least one if not both of these characters, for crying out loud. Even if Rebecca's was under hypnosis, she still came onto him and he still fell for the bait. He still wanted her to come back with him, even after the curse was broken. And Lucky is the only one who was actively pursued by another girl (Dumpling) throughout the series. Two-Tone is in a similar boat, though to a lesser degree. She was the one who brought the entirety of Love 'Em and Flea 'Em upon herself; first she was after Mooch, and later on, Lucky. And let's not forget Two-Tone's debate over declaring Mooch "guilty" in Twelve Angry Pups.
Why do you think Cadpig is so suited for The Pervert, anyway? She had one episode that hinted at any sort of romantic relations in her personality. That was really it. She is spiritual and has the guru personality, and is always spouting wisdom at the other three in the group, hence why I think she's better off as The Smart Guy.
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Post by Belchic on Feb 16, 2014 15:41:29 GMT -5
In my perspective, the pervert is not someone who's involved in romantic relationships. To me, the pervert is the member of the team who has the most sick and twisted mind. Taking that into consideration, Cadpig has made quite a number of relatively-depraved statements in the series, while Lucky has never done anything even remotely-close. Same case goes with Two-Tone. I think she'd be the least-likely one to be considered a pervert.
Though, since you mentioned Mooch's gang, I thought of his gang in our cannon, and here's what their ensemble would be like:
Only Sane Man: Mooch The Smart Guy: Nemo The Pervert: Jerko The Butt Monkey: Turner
I can't think of any Four Temperament Ensembles since I don't really know what those words mean, and my characters could be more than one of those.
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Post by Paws on Feb 17, 2014 18:01:56 GMT -5
I see the point you're trying to make, and the definition of the word holds both meanings. So above all I think they'd tag-team it more so than have it to exclusively Lucky or Cadpig, as I can see both of them fitting both roles (Pervert and Smart Guy) Four Temperament Ensemble is the way your characters would work off of one another in terms of personality in a group of four or five. The link I put up explains it best, but let me try and give you my best run-down of it. Each word (sanguine, choleric, melancholic, phlegmatic, and leukine) refers to a theory in which four different personalities matched to four different fluids of the body (blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm). Leukine (white plasm) was added later to this theory to balance out the group, should there be a character who's temperament doesn't line up with the other four. Sanguine: Extroverted and people-oriented Choleric: Extroverted and task-oriented Melancholic: Introverted and task-oriented Phlegmatic: Introverted and people-oriented Leukine: Ambivalent and dually-oriented ("central") This should give you a good idea of what I'm talking aboutIt sounds complicated but it's actually a really simple concept.
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Post by Belchic on Mar 10, 2014 15:58:05 GMT -5
Thought maybe I'd look back at this topic. I took some time to think about my Four-Temperment Ensemble, and here's what I came up with: Tippy: Sanguine Noggin: Choleric Belchic: Melancholic Joey: Phlegmatic That good, Paws?
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Post by Belchic on Jul 23, 2014 18:40:03 GMT -5
No one seems to have contributed to this topic, so I thought if do this. Being a member of this board for so many years, I have learned to know everyone's characters. With that in mind, I think I can guess who their Four-Man Bands could be: babclayman: The Only Sane Man: Clayton The Smart Guy: Kendra The Pervert: Doc The Butt Monkey: Goliath Stirfry: The Only Sane Man: Lilly The Smart Guy: Camera The Pervert: Sandy The Butt Monkey: Chive @shawn217: The Only Sane Man: Balance The Smart Guy: Shane The Pervert: Shawn The Butt Monkey: Blake Shadow Dearly: The Only Sane Man: Shadow The Smart Guy: Cecilia The Pervert: Rosalina The Butt Monkey: Autumn Sweeney Terrier: The Only Sane Man: Katrina The Smart Guy: Lupus The Pervert: Jocelyn The Butt Monkey: Abby I decided to tag your names so that you guys could see this post. To those who own the rights to the characters I listed, please correct me if I'm off on any of those. I'd appreciate it. I'm also not sure how any other pups like Raine Dearly would list as theirs. Though to anyone I mentioned: feel free to jump in and share your band!
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Post by Stirfry on Jul 23, 2014 18:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by Balance on Jul 23, 2014 19:11:39 GMT -5
Belchic. How in the world do you think Shawn in a pervert? Plz explain.
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Post by Belchic on Jul 23, 2014 20:32:33 GMT -5
Belchic. How in the world do you think Shawn in a pervert? Plz explain. Who are you? Is that you, Shawn? Did you get logged out?
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Post by babclayman on Jul 23, 2014 20:33:43 GMT -5
It's either him or Shawn's Sister? She made her own Dal for here, didn't she?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 20:34:02 GMT -5
Belchic and babclayman That's my sister, I'm still logged in and no she didn't make a Dal here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 20:45:40 GMT -5
I'm just as curious on why Shawn is a pervert and Blake is the Butt Monkey, when in reality they clearly aren't.
Shawn doesn't go around like Bishop and try to mate with any of the females on the farm.
And Blake... Well, I don't really get the idea of him being a butt monkey.
For me this is how it goes.
The Leader: Balance The Smart Guy: Shane The Hot Head: Shawn The Jokester: Blake
I'm not upset with you Belchic, please understand this.
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Post by Balance on Jul 23, 2014 20:50:23 GMT -5
It's Shawn's sis. Me!
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Post by Belchic on Jul 23, 2014 21:39:07 GMT -5
Like I said: these are just estimated guesses. If you were to change them, @shawn217, who would have what titles in your team?
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