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Post by Belchic on Jul 21, 2008 1:12:37 GMT -5
I'm sure a lot of you have read my review on this episode, and while I find it to be one of the best, I still see a couple flaws in it.
The reason Lucky wanted to run for mayor is because Ed Pig was taking advantage of his duty as the mayor of the farm by making laws that were unfar on the main pups. I especially loved the scene after Lucky won the election, and he, Cadpig, Rolly and Spot went over to Ed and rubbed it in.
However, at the end of the episode, Lucky resigned from office due to all those promises he made to the other farm animals, and everybody got mad at him. That made Ed the mayor again. Does that mean that all of Ed's laws were back into action? So now it's once again illegal for Spot to watch her show, Rolly to say "bacon", Cadpig to whistle, and Lucky to complain? What a bunch of ****ing bull****!
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Post by dominus on Jul 21, 2008 3:42:29 GMT -5
I last watched this episode back in 2006, so I decided to re-watch it in order to express my thoughts in this thread. I have to say that you brought up an interesting point; this episode seemed to have its priorities messed up. Sure, Lucky lied in order to get elected, but what he did was nowhere near as bad as what Mayor Ed Pig had done. Mayor Ed Pig abused his powers. He essentially became a dictator, suppressing free speech and controlling the populace through unfair laws created on a whim. He attempted to block the democratic process by preventing Lucky from running, and once he allowed Lucky to run, he attempted to buy votes. I know that Lucky started to act like Mayor Ed Pig towards the end of the episode, but he never actually abused his powers; the most he did was threaten to abuse his powers.
Realistically, all politicians make promises that they can’t keep in order to get elected. In that regard, Lucky did nothing out of the ordinary. It was still wrong, but it doesn’t make sense for Mayor Ed Pig to be reinstated. I believe that the episode should have made a bigger deal out of Mayor Ed Pig’s abuses.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jul 21, 2008 11:42:45 GMT -5
I don't think all of what Mayor Ed Pig originally did were reinstated; he might have looked at what Lucky originally did in that episode and saw the light. Afterwards, he may have tried to be a more fair mayor.
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Post by babclayman on Jul 21, 2008 13:11:47 GMT -5
Yeah, i agree with Trey-Vore saying that Ed Pig saw the error of his ways.
This episode is one of my favorite episodes as everyone did something in it.
Lucy did something, the Colonel did something, the chickens did something, cows did something. And most rare for the series; Patch did something.
This was the most lines he was ever given in the series and it showed he actually did have potential to a main pup roles. It seriously deserves it.
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Post by dalmatianlover on Jul 21, 2008 13:15:22 GMT -5
i don´t like the Mayor so much. Because in the episode he only making lows for hikm self and not carring about the other animmals.
He should make lows, not only for him self but also for the animals
But i love the episode, because it also shows some democracy xD
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Post by Belchic on Jul 21, 2008 13:49:19 GMT -5
Yeah, i agree with Trey-Vore saying that Ed Pig saw the error of his ways. This episode is one of my favorite episodes as everyone did something in it. Lucy did something, the Colonel did something, the chickens did something, cows did something. And most rare for the series; Patch did something. This was the most lines he was ever given in the series and it showed he actually did have potential to a main pup roles. It seriously deserves it. According to wait Trey_Vore has said, Disney was originally going to have the main pups in this series be Lucky, Rolly, Cadpig, Patch and Penny. This seemed to make sense since Lucky, Rolly, Patch and Penny were the main pups of the movie, and Cadpig was probably just thrown in to have some kind of reference to the book. However, Disney feared something about having too big of a main cast, so they dropped Patch and Penny.
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Post by dominus on Jul 21, 2008 14:36:14 GMT -5
I don't think all of what Mayor Ed Pig originally did were reinstated; he might have looked at what Lucky originally did in that episode and saw the light. Afterwards, he may have tried to be a more fair mayor. Perhaps, but that doesn’t change the fact that he had seriously abused his powers. As I said in my earlier post… Mayor Ed Pig abused his powers. He essentially became a dictator, suppressing free speech and controlling the populace through unfair laws created on a whim. He attempted to block the democratic process by preventing Lucky from running, and once he allowed Lucky to run, he attempted to buy votes.
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Post by RaceFanX on Jul 21, 2008 14:55:06 GMT -5
It's also a great example of the old phrase "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and a nice spoof on the way how in the USA politicians will say ANYTHING to get elected and not follow thru on any of it.
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Post by Two-Tone on Jul 22, 2008 4:13:25 GMT -5
*agrees with Racefan*
Poor Lucky, even he can't resist the temptation of power abuse
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Post by dominus on Jul 22, 2008 5:51:48 GMT -5
Poor Lucky, even he can't resist the temptation of power abuse Technically, he never did abuse his powers. He merely lied in order to get into office. Towards the end of the episode, he may have threatened to abuse his powers, but he realized that he was acting like a jerk and stopped before he actually did.
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Post by Two-Tone on Jul 27, 2008 3:03:05 GMT -5
and thats a good thing
bad thing is the big porker Mayor Pig was reinstated as mayor
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Post by Belchic on Mar 2, 2010 3:00:30 GMT -5
Something I noticed, which I've been meaning to share for a while. There was actually an episode of "Full House" with a plot similar to the plot of this episode. If I remember correctly, a school was holding a PTA meeting stating that they were going to shut down the art department. The character, Joey, was trying to run against the current president as the new PTA president so that he could bring the art program back. However, during the election, the current president (Joey's opponent) was doing stuff for the kids like giving them free ice cream making them vote for her. Joey had to do something really big to get people to vote for him, and he ended up having Little Richard (who happened to be related to one of Michelle's friends) perform for the school. Tell me if this plot sounds familiar to you.
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Post by xardas on Apr 6, 2010 1:27:42 GMT -5
Tell me if this plot sounds familiar to you. I don’t believe your comparison matches up as well as you think, but as great as I believe 101 Dalmatians: The Series was, there’s no denying that most of the episodes weren’t very original. I think half of the plots have been used in at least two dozen television programs. Come to think of it, I’m not sure which episode is actually the most original…
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Post by Belchic on Apr 6, 2010 12:57:16 GMT -5
Tell me if this plot sounds familiar to you. I don’t believe your comparison matches up as well as you think, but as great as I believe 101 Dalmatians: The Series was, there’s no denying that most of the episodes weren’t very original. I think half of the plots have been used in at least two dozen television programs. Come to think of it, I’m not sure which episode is actually the most original… Oh, believe me, it does connect. The events in that episode could easily relate to the events in the 101 episode. I do see you're point on the unoriginality, though. "Four Stories Up" is similar to a Rugrats episode as stated on TV.com. Oh, and don't even get me started on "A Christmas Cruella"!
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Post by babclayman on Apr 6, 2010 13:16:31 GMT -5
Well be fair on "Christmas Cruella", Belchic. TV writers have been milking that goat for years, at least it wasn't a full Rip-Off of "Christmas Carol" and it did give us some nice Backstory to Cruella, which actually made us sympathise with her.
Also, correct me if i;m wrong, but didn't you once consider doing a "101 Dalmatians" version of "It's A Wonderful Life"? It's somewhat the same lines as "Christmas Cruella"
I myself think this episodes inspiration was the Presidential Elections going on in America at the time, which i find is a subtle idea. =3
But, the episodes were somewhat original in my opinion. I don't think i ever saw any other show which had "This Racer is too Scared to Race, We got to help him." or "The Raffle Tickets are Rigged but Nanny got the winning ticket by mistake but she dropped it, we got to get it to her!" Come on, there are alot of original ideas in "101 Dalmatians" =3
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