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Post by Lucky on Jun 28, 2017 17:17:59 GMT -5
They were antagonists in the show too, Bel, I don't know about this show though, I haven't watched Animaniacs in a long time, so I probably wouldn't watch this show either, rather Steven works on the show or not.
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Post by canzetyote on Jun 28, 2017 19:05:02 GMT -5
My personal favorite characters are Wakko, Pinky, Runt and Slappy Squirrel.
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Post by Belchic on Jun 28, 2017 21:38:37 GMT -5
Problem with that Belchic, is without Pinky and the Brain the show feels... rather fluffy. The Warners are hardly classic. It doesn't matter how funny you think they are they can't carry the show on their own. Also in all honesty, for all you've told me Rita and Runt never ONCE made you feel uncomfortable? So let me get this straight: You are perfectly fine with the revamps of Transformers, TMNT, Alvin and the Chipmunks and DuckTales, yet you are not okay with the revamps of Teen Titans, the Powerpuff Girls or Animaniacs? How is it that you like some revamps but not others? Am I missing something? Is the Alvin one doing something right that the PPG one isn't?
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jul 10, 2017 3:18:08 GMT -5
Problem with that Belchic, is without Pinky and the Brain the show feels... rather fluffy. The Warners are hardly classic. It doesn't matter how funny you think they are they can't carry the show on their own. Also in all honesty, for all you've told me Rita and Runt never ONCE made you feel uncomfortable? So let me get this straight: You are perfectly fine with the revamps of Transformers, TMNT, Alvin and the Chipmunks and DuckTales, yet you are not okay with the revamps of Teen Titans, the Powerpuff Girls or Animaniacs? How is it that you like some revamps but not others? Am I missing something? Is the Alvin one doing something right that the PPG one isn't? Babclayman and I are aware that Teen Titans Go! openly insults its critics. Some examples are right here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TakeThatCriticsNow to answer your question, Alvin and the Chipmunks is pretty resilient. It's a franchise not built on characters or story but rather to make you want to buy some novelty songs. The new Powerpuff Girls show however does everything ass-backwards. It was like someone over at Cartoon Network HQ once saw what the suits at Hasbro were able to accomplish with My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and wanted a piece of that action so they said "How about we use The Powerpuff Girls? After all a lot of people remember watching that and remember how much merchandise we were able to sell from it?" Problem with that is, they aren't cut from the same cloth. My Little Pony is being done with the intention of being a toy commercial. The Powerpuff Girls was supposed to be art. Sure merchandise came as a result but that was just because it lended itself to that idea best. Now it's like you're trying to take something that was being made with the intention of being art and you're trying to turn it into a toy commercial? That is mighty crass. Just like your favorite celebrity who originally did what they did for love but now suddenly are doing their thing just because they need their cocaine fix. With that in mind, what might come as a result of the new Animaniacs?
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Post by Belchic on Jul 10, 2017 14:49:02 GMT -5
As I've said before, Trey, but you never seem to listen: Steven Spielberg is returning as the creator of the show. With the show's original creator at work on the show, you can bet there is promise, right?
That's the problem the Powerpuff Girls reboot had. Neither Craig McCracken or Lauren Faust had any involvement with it, so that's part of the reason why it has such a bad reputation with its viewers. I still enjoy the show, but I admit it's nowhere near as good as the original.
As for the new Alvin and the Chipmunks show, I still can't see how you can possibly like it. I mean, I won't judge your opinion, but the animation on that show is just horrendous. The designs of the Chipmunks themselves are just horrible. The way they looked in the 60's cartoon and the 80's cartoon was tolerable. The way they look in the modern live action films is bad enough as I find them way too realistic. But THIS cartoon, they don't look like they resemble Chipmunks OR humans. They're clearly just hybrids, and it's not appealing to look at. Also, considering this show is a 2010's cartoon, and it's meant to showcase modern pop music indicates that it's as far from its former counterparts as possible. Though I could probably say the same thing about the previous shows: The Alvin Show is clearly stuck in the 60's, and Alvin and the Chipmunks is clearly stuck in the 80's. So know matter what you say, these Chipmunks will always do what they can to appeal to the current demographic of music fans. Also, I still don't understand why you classify the Chipmunks and Chippettes as one whole team when they're clearly two separate trios who for the most part are against each other.
Anyway, I'm going way off topic here. Trey, you have every right to avoid this Animaniacs reboot, but I'm still going to check it out whether you watch it or not.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jul 17, 2017 7:44:33 GMT -5
As I've said before, Trey, but you never seem to listen: Steven Spielberg is returning as the creator of the show. With the show's original creator at work on the show, you can bet there is promise, right? It doesn't matter. Pinky and the Brain gave this series it's nostalgic value. A part of the reason was they always had a consistent running plot: night after night they always had a goal: to take over the world. The Brain would always concoct an elaborate scheme to do so, and would always come close but somehow, they would always fail. It gives a type of story and character strength that Americans generally like and take seriously. That's why so many people remember and like Pinky and the Brain so much. The Warners and their fluffy smartass-humor only goes so far. Funny yes, but heart is not their forte. If they are NOT bringing back Pinky and the Brain, it's already dead in the water. Trey, you have every right to avoid this Animaniacs reboot, but I'm still going to check it out whether you watch it or not. I do plan to avoid it. They also may have trouble adapting these characters to modern times, just ask the Little Rascals. Also, I still don't understand why you classify the Chipmunks and Chippettes as one whole team when they're clearly two separate trios who for the most part are against each other. And that's relevant because...?
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Post by Belchic on Jul 10, 2018 23:42:01 GMT -5
So from what I’m hearing about this Animaniacs reboot is it is going to be streaming on Hulu.
The question still remains though on what sketches from the show are going to be in it? Or is it going to be strictly going to be on the Warners? Well, let’s take a look:
I know they will bring back the Warners since that was the show’s main sketch and is usually the first sketch that comes to mind when people think of Animaniacs.
Pinky and the Brain was the most popular sketch on the show. Even though it did get its own spin-off, I’m sure there will be a lot of popular demand to have it on this reboot.
Slappy Squirrel was another fairly popular sketch, and it was one of the few that made it all the way to the end of the show’s run, so there is a good chance it’ll return.
The Goodfeathers is a sketch I can do without, but sadly, I think this one will come back since they did push this sketch a lot during the show’s run.
Buttons & Mindy, again, I wouldn’t miss this one, but they did push this sketch a lot during the show’s run, so it is likely to return as well.
Rita & Runt is a sketch I hope they will bring back, but it’s very likely it will not. Not because it’s about pet abuse, but I remember this sketch was dropped from the show after the first season because Rita’s voice artist, Bernadette Peters, was demanding a salary raise or something, and as a result, these characters were reduced to only cameos. Still, I hope they bring it back, even if they have to give Rita a new VA, because this was my favorite sketch.
The Hip Hippos, nobody really cared about this sketch, so they probably won’t bring this one back.
Chicken Boo would be nice to bring back, but it’s not very likely.
Katie Kaboom, I doubt will come back. Does anyone even remember that sketch?
As for Minerva Mink...definitely not. The reasons are pretty obvious.
I would also be interested in seeing some new sketches if they were to be made. Just as long as they’re on the same level as the good ones (Pinky and the Brain, Slappy Squirrel, Rita & Runt) and not the bad ones (The Hip Hippos, the Goodfeathers, Buttons & Mindy).
You guys have any thoughts on this?
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jul 29, 2020 16:07:04 GMT -5
I did read this after reading a post on animaniacs.fandom.com:
On June 11, 2020, Rob Paulsen said in an Ask Fandom livestream that the estimated release window as of now is September-October, but no exact date due to COVID. He also confirmed the show is a revival and that the Warners have been locked away in the tower since the 90s ("They are self-aware that they had been locked-down for 25 years").
In an interview with Animation Magazine, Rob Paulsen confirmed that as of July 2020 the show is now in post-production. He also confirmed that Squit and Dr. Scratchansniff will be returning. New ancillary characters will also be introduced.
On July 19th, 2020, more reboot news dropped courtesy of Animanicast‘s sources.
The following was revealed:
-Theme song is the same as the original with modified lyrics. -First season is decent with ups and downs with a “spectacular” second season. -Pilot episode is stellar. -Pinky and the Brain in particular have some of the strongest episodes. -Wellesley Wild is working to honor the original show to satisfy old and new audiences with modern stuff as well as to make his -children happy. -Hello Nurse, Minerva Mink, Rita and Runt will not appear. -Spielberg’s “clean-up” crew had a different role than thought, he was busy for West Side Story for a while before returning with a -set of notes. The issue here wasn’t with quality but rather time. Additional support was hired to help out. -Freakazoid will possibly appear in the second season. -Thaddeus Plotz will retire and not be present as a new female Latina CEO will take over the studio.
I also heard that we won't see much of Slappy and Skippy.
It does sound like they are trying to make this new show 90% Warners and Pinky and the Brain (they may end up taking over the show though). The rest of the others will likely be simply "handwaves" and that's it.
Might be an acceptable new show but I'll probably be more invested with Transformers: War for Cybertron.
Thoughts?
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Post by Belchic on Jul 29, 2020 23:50:19 GMT -5
Aww! That’s disappointing that Rita & Runt aren’t coming back! 😔 Though the most likely reason is because they are unable to bring Bernadette Peters aboard (NOT because of animal abuse!)
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Post by Two-Tone on Jul 31, 2020 0:52:29 GMT -5
it's more surprising they are dropping both Minerva Mink and Hello Nurse. Then again a lot of people are comparing this to when the 2016 PPGs dropped Ms.Bellum and altered Ms. Keane's chest to be flat.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jul 31, 2020 7:52:21 GMT -5
it's more surprising they are dropping both Minerva Mink and Hello Nurse. Then again a lot of people are comparing this to when the 2016 PPGs dropped Ms.Bellum and altered Ms. Keane's chest to be flat. Totally. Are they really afraid that having curvy women in swimsuits is going to cause little girls to behave like skanks? This pro-feminism movement isn't doing anyone any favors, it just does nothing for anyone. After all the cast and director of Terminator: Dark Fate have now admitted that was a terrible choice and that franchise is pretty much dead. Same with how Elizabeth Banks was the lead writer, director and even starred in the 2019 Charlie's Angels and lashed out at sexism in the film industry when it bombed. The movie's failure was entirely at her feet. What might be another problem that I see is this: I remember how when Disney made the new DuckTales series it wasn't just DuckTales that they adapted but rather they did a "shared universe" for the Disney Afternoon as a whole. People seemed to really like that. It'd be nice if they were to do something with Tiny Toon Adventures, Taz-Mania, Freakazoid!, Road Rovers and Histeria!, but seeing as this is very heavily Warners and Pinky and the Brain, I'm not getting too excited.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Aug 14, 2020 22:31:26 GMT -5
Aww! That’s disappointing that Rita & Runt aren’t coming back! 😔 Though the most likely reason is because they are unable to bring Bernadette Peters aboard ( NOT because of animal abuse!) It was more than likely a combination of the two. They figured they can't just keep shelling out money to have Bernadette Peters come back for a sketch that moral guardians will likely complain about. Do you really think they want parents to start sending angry letters about how the kids started torturing the pet because it looked funny? Like drug use a point you're trying to make is not going to be very effective if it's played to be a big joke. It's the same logic for why Minerva Mink isn't coming back. Not just because the sketch bordered on being too risque for a show meant for kids, but also because Minerva Mink isn't exactly a Disney Princess. She is obsessed with her looks, thinks only of herself and judges on having six pack abs, piles of money and a fast car. That's how women get RAPED. Not an ideal role model for little girls, just like how you wouldn't think a superhero team that uses their powers for their own gain rather than the greater good would be proper role models for little boys.
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Post by Belchic on Aug 14, 2020 23:52:11 GMT -5
Aww! That’s disappointing that Rita & Runt aren’t coming back! 😔 Though the most likely reason is because they are unable to bring Bernadette Peters aboard ( NOT because of animal abuse!) It was more than likely a combination of the two. They figured they can't just keep shelling out money to have Bernadette Peters come back for a sketch that moral guardians will likely complain about. Do you really think they want parents to start sending angry letters about how the kids started torturing the pet because it looked funny? Like drug use a point you're trying to make is not going to be very effective if it's played to be a big joke. It's the same logic for why Minerva Mink isn't coming back. Not just because the sketch bordered on being too risque for a show meant for kids, but also because Minerva Mink isn't exactly a Disney Princess. She is obsessed with her looks, thinks only of herself and judges on having six pack abs, piles of money and a fast car. That's how women get RAPED. Not an ideal role model for little girls, just like how you wouldn't think a superhero team that uses their powers for their own gain rather than the greater good would be proper role models for little boys. No offense, Trey, but I think you’re overthinking the Rita & Runt sketch. It’s not about animal abuse but more about two strays finding a home. I don’t recall seeing Rita or Runt get brutally murdered in any of their sketches.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Sept 14, 2020 15:27:22 GMT -5
We got another set of casualties guys.
You know we won't be seeing Hello Nurse, Minerva Mink, Rita or Runt.
Now, we can add Slappy Squirrel, Skippy Squirrel, Buttons and Mindy to the 'non-returning characters' list.
This new show is going to seem a lot more predictable. Do they really think the Warners are THAT good?
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Post by Belchic on Sept 14, 2020 22:01:25 GMT -5
To be fair, Trey, the Warners were the main sketch of the series. Though it is baffling that they and Pinky and the Brain are the only returning sketches. Maybe this means they’ll be bringing aboard a fresh new assortment of sketches. Ever think of that? It’s like out with the old, in with the new, but keep what worked best.
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