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Post by Belchic on Jun 21, 2009 0:27:25 GMT -5
Alright, I've got a new rule for this topic. Remember that Big-Lipped Aligator Moments have to meet four requirements:
1. It comes right out of nowhere, 2. It has little to no bearing whatsoever to the plot, 3. It's completely over the top in terms of ridiculousness, and 4. After it happens, nobody ever speaks of it again.
Whenever you guys post a Big-Lipped Aligator Moment, make sure that you try to prove your point by showing how it meets those four requirements.
For example, I already have this one in the list on the first post, but I feel it needs some explaining:
The "Silly Song" segment from "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs".
1. It comes right out of nowhere Well, there was really no build-up to this scene. The scene that came before this was where the evil queen turned herself into the old hag and started pulling together her plan to kill Snow White, and then it just cut to this scene. I mean, we didn't hear any of the dwarves say anything like, "Hey, let's throw a party for Snow White," or anything like that, so yeah, it did come right out of nowhere.
2. It has little to no bearing whatsoever to the plot Well, the plot involves Snow White finding her prince and the queen wanting to kill her, so this really has nothing to do with any of that.
3. It's completely over the top in terms of ridiculousness Just about every possible ridiculous thing happens in this scene. Not to mention, the whole segment is 4 minutes and 33 seconds long! (Yeah, I timed it.)
4. After it happens, nobody ever speaks of it again The segment ends with Sneezy sneezing Dopey out of the coat, every one laughs for a little while, then Snow White says, "That was fun." Then after that, does anyone ever talk about the party ever again? Nope.
So, yep. This truly is a BIG-LIPPED ALIGATOR MOMENT!
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Post by Belchic on Jul 10, 2009 15:24:28 GMT -5
Here's a big-lipped aligator moment for ya! This one is from "Brother Bear".
Let's see if this meets the qualifications...
1. It comes right out of nowhere While Kenai and Koda were lost and looking for the mountain, they came across these two rams. There were no rams or any mention of rams up until this scene.
2. It has little to no bearing whatsoever to the plot It starts out with the rams hitting each other in the head to impress a girl they both like, but then Kenai comes up to ask them for directions until one of them hears his echo. Thinking it's somebody else, he calls out "Shut up!" then "No, you shut up!" and the other one joins in, and they just keep going on and on and on. Then, Kenai and Koda leave.
3. It's completely over the top in terms of ridiculousness Well, yeah, two rams yelling at their own echos is totally ridiculous in a lot of ways.
4. After it happens, nobody ever speaks of it again After Kenai and Koda leave, they never talk about the rams again. We do see them again during the credits, but they don't show up in the story again.
There you have it: THE BIG-LIPPED ALIGATOR MOMENT!
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Post by babclayman on Jul 10, 2009 15:51:32 GMT -5
Well i got to disagree with that Big Lipped Aligator Moment. Some things are wrong not making it an aligator moment.
While 1 and 2 is sort of true for
3. Its not ridiculous it is funny.
and for 4. Even if the characters don;t speak of it again, it still does appear in credits, still making them refer to it.
While it may have 2 counts, it still doesn;t forfill all 4 needed.
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Post by Belchic on Jul 10, 2009 17:13:06 GMT -5
Most people found my "Land Before Time" BLAM to not count, but I thought of another scene in the movie that probably would qualify.
This scene takes place after Littlefoot's mother dies and Littlefoot talks to Rooter. There's this scene that involves about a dozen baby pterodactyls fighting over a cherry, and then they each get one of their own by their mother.
1. It comes right out of nowhere Yes. It just pops up right after a dramatic/heartbreaking moment.
2. It has little to no bearing whatsoever to the plot Well, at the end of the scene, it shows one of the babies offering his cherry to Littlefoot who is just sitting down silent and only thinking about his mother, but he wasn't thinking about going to the Great Valley (as the narrator pointed out).
3. It's completely over the top in terms of ridiculousness It's a little comic relief, but still, it was competely pointless and quite ridiculous.
4. After it happens, nobody ever speaks of it again Well, Littlefoot never talks about the Pterodactyls he saw, we never see them again in the film, and heck, not even the narrator talked about them.
So, what do you say, bab? BIG-LIPPED ALIGATOR MOMENT?
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Post by babclayman on Jul 10, 2009 17:16:05 GMT -5
Maybe, i'll think it over as i havn't seen this movie before.
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Post by pitch on Jul 10, 2009 23:49:03 GMT -5
Yeah that scene from Flint stones was a bit pointless, but I can't call the cherry scene someone mentioned, I don't remember if it was in your other LBT refrences Belchic, pointless since I live it too much. Plus it could serve a point, it shows Littlefoot is so depressed about his mother's death that he's not noticing much if anything about him, and backs up the narrators saying he 'hardly ate'.
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Post by babclayman on Jul 15, 2009 18:08:59 GMT -5
I so remember that scene, bab! They also never explain who's car it puked on. If I remember correctly, there was something else odd about that scene: After the pterodactyl pukes, we hear a kid say, "Uh..." That's it. Just "Uh..." It sounded like he/she was going to say, "Uh-oh", but it gets cut off as it goes to the next scene. Seriously, WHO'S CAR DID THAT THING PUKE ON??? Yeah, i am not sure whos car was puked on either. Plus i remember hearing "Uh" too. I think it was suppose to be someone going "Errg." at the site of pterodactyl puke in disgust. You know it's like when you see something gross and you can't help but say "Ewwww" Sort of like that. But yeah, scene still pointless and is a BLAMAnd Pitch, i say you have given good evidence on not making the cherry scene a BLAMSo yeah, doesn't count as one.
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Post by Belchic on Jul 15, 2009 20:01:57 GMT -5
I so remember that scene, bab! They also never explain who's car it puked on. If I remember correctly, there was something else odd about that scene: After the pterodactyl pukes, we hear a kid say, "Uh..." That's it. Just "Uh..." It sounded like he/she was going to say, "Uh-oh", but it gets cut off as it goes to the next scene. Seriously, WHO'S CAR DID THAT THING PUKE ON??? Yeah, i am not sure whos car was puked on either. Plus i remember hearing "Uh" too. I think it was suppose to be someone going "Errg." at the site of pterodactyl puke in disgust. You know it's like when you see something gross and you can't help but say "Ewwww" Sort of like that. But yeah, scene still pointless and is a BLAMAnd Pitch, i say you have given good evidence on not making the cherry scene a BLAMSo yeah, doesn't count as one. Okay, first of all, the BLAM is supposed to take place BEFORE we see Littlefoot in the scene! The Big-Lipped Aligator Moment is supposed to be the PTERODACTYLS, not Littlefoot! I'm really getting sick of people contradicting the BLAMs that I'm posting here! I think I may want to point out that the big-lipped aligator scene from "All Dogs Go To Heaven" actually isn't a BLAM, for the aligator does make another appearance later in the film. Also, as a correction to your's bab, I think the pterodactyl pooped on the car. I think it was supposed to be a joke as it were a prehistoric version of this everyday life issue that people go through (birds pooping on our cars). Now, let me ask you this bab: Does the scene from Snow White I mentioned earlier not count as a BLAM either? If not, please provide some evidence as to why not.
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Post by pitch on Jul 15, 2009 20:38:34 GMT -5
Well, yeah anything mentioned here can get batted back and forth since it's opinion based really, and as I said I'm bias and like the Pterodactyls ;D plus you have to know where they come from don't ya! Ok, maybe not. You're saying the fight for the cherry's a BLAM? hmm, could be but I still hold with no, sorry How else is Littlefoot suppose to get the cherry? ;D
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Post by babclayman on Jul 16, 2009 4:26:50 GMT -5
I still feel the Pterodactyls scene is still a BLAM.
It doesn't matter if it is comic relief nor does it matter whether it is poo, it still came out of no where, no affect on the plot, was just silly (even in the context of the film) and no one ever spoke of it again. It still fills in all the tick boxes for a BLAM.
Also, i never seen LBT so i can't decide for myself there. But Pitch is making good points of why it isn't a BLAM.
For Snow White...I dunno. o.o
But with the Aligator, i think the moment they were refering to was the musical number the Aligator did when it began singing and went into that fancy show despite the fact they're in a sewer. That was definately the time when it was a BLAM.
The scene could have been done with just saying "I'm an aligator i;m going to eat you!" "Ahhhh!!!" "Oh i love your voice, i won't eat you" "Can you take me to this guy?" "Sure. Follow me." But instead it just did that song which was random and the musical number never was refered to again. See my point?
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Post by Belchic on Jul 16, 2009 12:24:14 GMT -5
Well, let me get some things straight on the LBT scene just so that I can clear things up for Pitch: That little scene with the baby pterodactyls fighting over the cherry was supposed to be the big-lipped aligator moment. Littlefoot just sitting around thinking about his mother was part of the plot, so I think when we see Littlefoot in that scene, the BLAM is over. The baby pterodactyls were not part of the plot, and still, after that scene, Little foot never talks about them again, and we never see them again. I think you may have misunderstood the second BLAM qualification, and that's why you think that scene doesn't count: "It has little to no bearing whatsoever to the plot." So, what I'm saying is, this scene could still qualify as a BLAM, because it has a little bearing to the plot, but not much. The only reason I can see it really not qualifying as a BLAM would be if we saw those pterodactyls again, if Littlefoot talked about them later in the film, or if the baby pterodactyl who offered Littlefoot his cherry went with him on his journey. babclayman: Since you haven't seen the movie, the scene I'm talking about starts at 1:52 and ends at 2:50. www.youtube.com/watch?v=P313bV9gxxg&feature=relatedI can actually see some logic behind the BLAMs that the Critic mentioned as to why they don't count, but I'll explain those later today.
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Post by Tic-Tac on Jul 16, 2009 23:45:56 GMT -5
I...I really want to...just...I... Belchic, you were watching pr0n? Geebus, what the ****, that blows my mind. Earth girls are easy...beknrnrgaga
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Post by Belchic on Jul 17, 2009 12:50:04 GMT -5
*gets ready to start filling out the form...but stops.*
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Post by Tic-Tac on Jul 17, 2009 20:05:10 GMT -5
Awww, why'dja stop? Anyway, uh...Big..lipped...moment, I guess. Pretty much all of the Tom and Jerry movie. I just...All of it. The songs, the plot...everything was terrible. A huge mess of a film.
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Post by pitch on Jul 18, 2009 0:22:24 GMT -5
Hmm, I never saw that movie...maybe a good thing I'm thinking now...
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