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Post by Cuddly Dearly on Jun 14, 2009 5:06:52 GMT -5
Great... ;D but are you sure that Pepper and Freckles are female?
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Post by babclayman on Jun 14, 2009 5:29:08 GMT -5
For me i felt Freckles was a guy as he wore a red collar Pepper is girl as she had blue collar.
And yeah, Tri-Pod is not part of the original 15. There was a scene at the start of Dalmatian Vacation where all the original 15 puppies sit in the car boot, Tri-Pod was not amongst them.
I have this old book i found in my shed last year which was a Disney 101 Dalmatians from the 1960s (i guess to celebrate the film release) and it gives the names of the puppies there, but they are a bit unoriginal and do not match up with the pups we have here.
In the book i found, We have Penny, Lenny, Salter, Pepper, Jolly, Rolly, Patch, Latch, Spot, Dot, Blob, Blot, Blackie, Whitey & Lucky.
As you can tell the names aren't all that good in the book.
However using evidence given by this book, the original novel the movies and the series; This is my rough guessing of the names and genders of the pups
Pup Name- Gender Lucky-Male Patch-Male Rolly-Male Cadpig-Female Two-Tone-Female Freckles-Male Penny-Female Pepper-Female Dipstick-Male Wizzer-Male Fidget-Male Salter-Male Jewel-Female Blob-Female Blot-Female
That is my rough estimate =/
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Post by Cuddly Dearly on Jun 14, 2009 6:24:17 GMT -5
For me i felt Freckles was a guy as he wore a red collar Pepper is girl as she had blue collar. And yeah, Tri-Pod is not part of the original 15. There was a scene at the start of Dalmatian Vacation where all the original 15 puppies sit in the car boot, Tri-Pod was not amongst them. I have this old book i found in my shed last year which was a Disney 101 Dalmatians from the 1960s (i guess to celebrate the film release) and it gives the names of the puppies there, but they are a bit unoriginal and do not match up with the pups we have here. In the book i found, We have Penny, Lenny, Salter, Pepper, Jolly, Rolly, Patch, Latch, Spot, Dot, Blob, Blot, Blackie, Whitey & Lucky. As you can tell the names aren't all that good in the book. However using evidence given by this book, the original novel the movies and the series; This is my rough guessing of the names and genders of the pups Pup Name- Gender Lucky-Male Patch-Male Rolly-Male Cadpig-Female Two-Tone-Female Freckles-Male Penny-Female Pepper-Female Dipstick-Male Wizzer-Male Fidget-Male Salter-Male Jewel-Female Blob-Female Blot-Female That is my rough estimate =/ hey, what book are you actually talking about? What's the title?
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Post by babclayman on Jun 14, 2009 6:28:52 GMT -5
I do not know, i lost the cover but it is a VERY old book. One from when my mother was only a baby.
It's a story about how while all the other original 15 Dalmatian puppies learnt special tricks the humans taught them, Lucky was more interested in copying TV stunts, and when he gets lost in the city he tries showing the TV tricks off but no one is impressed.
That's what happens, not sure of the title =S
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Post by Tic-Tac on Jun 14, 2009 7:39:43 GMT -5
In the movie, they reffer to Freckles as Female, I believe. 102: Patch's London adventure.
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Post by babclayman on Jun 14, 2009 7:52:45 GMT -5
What part in the movie is it stated exactly? The only thing i recall Freckles doing in Patch's London Adventure was jump in a pond and pull on the washing line.
While i still feel that since he had a red collar, that designated him as a male. But I got the dvd so i might check if Tac is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2009 8:24:17 GMT -5
The book sounds interesting^^
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Post by Tic-Tac on Jun 14, 2009 9:15:06 GMT -5
Collars mean nothing in the books or the shows.
Lucky's Collar is red. Cadpig's Collar is blue. Rolly's Collar is blue.
Rolly is male Cadpig is female it doesn't matter.
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Post by babclayman on Jun 14, 2009 9:29:24 GMT -5
Ah Good Point. However that was for the series.
In the first movie and Patch's London Adventure, Rollys collar was red. I suppose people just cast the gender of the pups because of the collars because since Pongo is Male and he has red and Perdy is female and she has blue.
I suppose you are right in a way with saying the collars mean nothing.
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Post by Nemo on Jun 14, 2009 10:10:56 GMT -5
I suppose people just cast the gender of the pups because of the collars because since Pongo is Male and he has red and Perdy is female and she has blue. That's what I had assumed when I first watched 101 dalmatians. But with the series and Patch's London Adventure they kinda messed that up. So yeah, doesn't matter apparently.
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Post by Cuddly Dearly on Jun 14, 2009 10:50:27 GMT -5
Collars mean nothing in the books or the shows. Lucky's Collar is red. Cadpig's Collar is blue. Rolly's Collar is blue. Rolly is male Cadpig is female it doesn't matter. In the animated movie it does matter. It's even mentioned in "Platinum edition", so Rolly, Lucky and Patch wear red collars, as their father Pongo, but Penny wears blue collar as her mother Perdita. But as far as I can see, Pepper and Freckles both have red collars. Just not to make a confusion... Pepper is the puppy sitting on Pongo's head while they're watching Thunderbolt. Or I'm wrong? Is Pepper mentioned somewhere else too?
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Post by babclayman on Jun 14, 2009 10:54:13 GMT -5
It was Freckles sitting on Pongos head. Picture evidence Pepper i think is mentioned at the end with Roger saying her name, or when Pongo says it in the Colonels barn when they get rescues.
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Post by Cuddly Dearly on Jun 14, 2009 12:16:58 GMT -5
Oh you're obviously right... In one "101 Dalmatians" picture book that I have it says "Pepper was sitting on Pongo's head"... it was obviously wrong... so now I have to check for Pepper.... ;D
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jun 14, 2009 14:19:50 GMT -5
In the book i found, We have Penny, Lenny, Salter, Pepper, Jolly, Rolly, Patch, Latch, Spot, Dot, Blob, Blot, Blackie, Whitey & Lucky. As you can tell the names aren't all that good in the book. However using evidence given by this book, the original novel the movies and the series; This is my rough guessing of the names and genders of the pups Pup Name- Gender Lucky-Male Patch-Male Rolly-Male Cadpig-Female Two-Tone-Female Freckles-Male Penny-Female Pepper-Female Dipstick-Male Wizzer-Male Fidget-Male Salter-Male Jewel-Female Blob-Female Blot-Female That is my rough estimate =/ Ugh, I am so glad Disney chose to retcon that in the mid-late 1990s.
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Post by babclayman on Jun 15, 2009 12:30:45 GMT -5
Me too Trey, me too =P
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