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Post by Two-Tone on Apr 4, 2013 23:35:16 GMT -5
should be good Belchic
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Post by babclayman on Apr 7, 2013 12:27:31 GMT -5
I see, Is this going to be like how you do your Reviews to MLP?
Although, If you do try a review of it, You okay if I make a Video Response with a Counter Argument (and possibly use some clips where they do explain cases). That okay?
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Post by Belchic on Apr 7, 2013 13:32:19 GMT -5
No. It's not going to be a video, bab. It's just going to be posted here in writing.
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Post by babclayman on Apr 8, 2013 16:59:31 GMT -5
I am curious though.
Do you consider trying video reviews of "101 Dalmatians" Episodes, like you try with MLP? Worth a try?
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Post by Belchic on Apr 8, 2013 17:38:53 GMT -5
I have no plans to do that, because I doubt anyone would be interested. Why don't you try it?
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Post by babclayman on Apr 10, 2013 14:56:01 GMT -5
Well, Perhaps a review show may help to get those Into it? I'm sure with some publicity, you can get an audience. Heavily Advertised Items are the ones consumed the most.
I'll see if I can give it a try. Reviews for each story or each half hour?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 21:36:09 GMT -5
Explain to me how you can't figure out where Rebecca comes from? If you actually paid attention to the episode, you'd see she was walking with the adult carriage hounds behind DimsDale's coach. Clearly, she belongs either to De Vil himself or one of his working stablehands, she's even seen at said stable when Spot breaks the curse both on her and Lucky. Plus, she has a clear Scottish accent, just like everyone else in the village, which to me would indicate that she'd been there her entire life and would have picked up their dialect.
Also... the curse makes everyone blissfully happy, this includes Rebecca... and I don't know where you're getting that she tried to "hypnotize" Lucky -__- she merely stated what she thought under her cursed, blissful state of mind, which Spot broke her from when she freed her from the curse's power.. then her true personality came forth, the one unaffected by pure unabashed joy.
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Post by Two-Tone on Apr 20, 2013 22:03:19 GMT -5
true though when Spot broke the curse on Lucky, Rebecca almost hypnotized him back under the curse untill Spot freed her, that gives me the impression Lucky was semi under the curse's effects which explains his asking her to come to the present which Rebecca refused cause she wanted to stay and protect her family from the Judge while she told Lucky to go back to his world and protect his family from Cruella
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 23:01:19 GMT -5
she didn't -hypnotize- anyone. She merely STATED an opinion. And they all stared at her blankly until Spot stepped up to kiss her and free her from the curse.
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Post by Trey_Vore on May 1, 2013 13:21:19 GMT -5
I am going to say that I felt this episode was okay. Not one the best nor worst, just 'in the middle'.
It also needed to be a full half-hour episode because it never would have worked as a short burst episode.
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Post by Cruella on May 12, 2013 3:10:24 GMT -5
Belchic, I agree with Bab and I also think you took this too seriously.
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Post by Belchic on Nov 17, 2013 18:02:32 GMT -5
Hello, there. A long time ago, I did a review on the 101 Dalmatians episode, "De Village Elder". I find this episode to be one of the worst episodes of the series because I find it makes no sense and not enough stuff gets explained. However, people have argued that I'm wrong and claim that my arguments make no sense. Well, let's face it, I felt in my original review, I was being a d!ck, and I ripped off the Nostalgia Critic a bit too much. That's why I decided to revisit my review of this episode, except I'll try to do it in a more calm tone of voice. Maybe and hopefully now, when these people read my review, they'll understand my frustrations better.
So the episode begins with Roger and Anita going out on a picnic and taking the main pups along with them. Why they're not taking the other Dalmatians is beyond me. Okay, I know that would be a lot to handle, but the Dearly's have brought all 101 with them on many occasions, and they managed it just fine (like the beginning of "Leisure Lawsuit").
They run into this fog and find it unusual. Once they get passed the fog, they discover this old village called De Vil Ville. Roger suspects Cruella is behind this. So not even thinking about the dangers they could encounter, everyone decides to walk into the village. Roger and Anita decide to talk to some of the townsfolk. Rolly sees a lot of good food that he decides to go for. Cadpig admires the scenery. Lucky then sees a female Dalmatian pup that he decides to go hang out with; this pup, of course, is Rebecca, one of the many ensemble dark horses of this show. Spot, however, is getting worried about what's going on.
They also encounter the town's Lord Mayor, Judge Dimsdale De Vil. He looks very familiar to Spot, so Spot leaves the town and rushes to Villa De Vil where she finds the hall of Cruella's relatives. She finds Dimsdale and discovers that he is centuries old. Of course, she goes berserk and rushes back to warn her friends, but only to be chased by Scorch followed closely by Cruella, who also discovers De Vil Ville.
Once back inside, Spot discovers that Roger, Anita, Lucky, Cadpig and Rolly have been hypnotized and are in love with the place. This is about the time Cruella runs into Dimsdale who tells Cruella what's going on. This town really is centuries old, but it has a curse. Because Dimsdale was such a bad person, a witch (who suspiciously reminds me of Nanny), places a curse on the town and have it disappear off the face of the earth only to return for one day every century, and all who set foot into the town will forever fall in love with it...but she decides to make chickens immune to the curse just because she has a pet chicken (thus giving Spot another reason to be a Mary Sue). Now this is my first big problem with this episode. Why would she do that? I understand the witch doesn't want her friend to get hurt, but it's not like her chicken would get killed from this; that's kind of a random exception. She must really love chickens in order to make that exception. Hmm...who does that sound like? Ed: I love chickens, Eddy!
Anyway, after that story, Dimsdale also tells Cruella that in addition to chickens, members of the De Vil family are also immune to the curse, but the witch didn't say that, so how does he know? Anyway, this gives Cruella the idea that she can finally get her hands on the farm.
So thinking quickly, Spot tries to find her friends and snap them out of their hypnotism. She sees that the sun is already starting to set, so she has to hurry.
So first, she comes across Rolly and Cadpig and tries every trick in the book to wake them up, but has no luck. But then she tries kissing them, and surprise surprise, it works! This is another big problem I have with this episode. It seemed that Spot was too quick to find the solution, which made the episode feel rushed. Yeah, I know it's a fairy tale cliche, but this isn't Snow White or Sleeping Beauty. They really should have made this a 2-part episode, and I think it might have been more interesting if they had a scene where Spot went around looking for a book that would tell the cure.
So anyway, Spot finds Lucky and kisses him, but then she kisses Rebecca, and Rebecca's pupils change from pink to blue, and she's unhappy now. This kind of makes me wonder if Rebecca was not an original resident of De Vil Ville. She could have possibly been another pup who wandered into it but got struck by the curse. If so, then what century did she come from? Nobody really has any direct proof.
So with only minutes remaining, Spot manages to free Roger and Anita from the curse, but Dimsdale is determined to have Cruella stay with him. Of course, Mary Sue Spot saves the day. Also, Lucky tries to talk Rebecca into coming home with the Dearly's but she declines. Thank God, because I don't want the LuckTone supporters to enrage!
Now, the town has disappeared, and it's night time now, and now we come to the last big problem I had with this episode. It seems nobody has any recollection of what had just happened. They don't know anything about Dimsdale, De Vil Ville or the curse. Spot is the only one who remembers anything. Now this is something that a lot of people have argued with me about. Spot assumed that the witch's curse caused all their memories of it to be erased, but the witch never said that. That doesn't mean Spot is right; she's just guessing. You can't just assume something and expect everyone to take your word for it that easily. It's like those people who say the moon is made of cheese, yet they have no evidence to back up their argument. You would think this is all that's bothering me about this? Well, no. Spot then thinks she might refresh the pups memory by kissing them, and the pups run away screaming. Granted, I'd do the same thing in that situation, but surely they must remember Spot kissing them (which they didn't like) if they were to run off in fear like that. I don't like hypocritical humor.
In conclusion, this was overall a very poor episode. It's got a confusing story, there's separation between the main pups, not enough stuff gets explained, and it just shows more evidence that Spot is a Mary Sue. I don't know why this episode is so popular, and I don't know how so many people understand it but me. I'm guessing the only reason people love it so much is because it features that mega fan favorite one shot character: Rebecca. But still, it really infuriates me that everybody else who has seen this episode understands it perfectly, but I don't. They tell me my arguments make no sense and take me for an idiot! However, they're arguments towards my arguments make no sense, because they all just sound to me like random assumptions with no concrete evidence. That's not how the world works!
You know what? I feel exactly like the Nostalgia Critic right now. His reaction to Quest for Camelot was exactly how I felt about "De Village Elder", and guess what? The fans' responses to his review are exactly the same as the responses I've been getting! They say I'm taking this episode too seriously, yet the people reviewing my fanfics are taking them just as seriously. What a bunch of hypocrites these people are!
You know what? I think I know the best way to settle this. I'm going to get my answers from the one smartest being I know of...Twilight Sparkle. Could you please explain "De Village Elder" to me?
Twilight: I am very disappointed in you.
That's all you're gonna say?
Twilight: That's enough.
...F*CK YOU! *takes out a gun and shoots Twilight* Oh my God! I just killed Twilight Sparkle! Oh, look at what this episode has done to me! I just killed one of my favorite cartoon characters!
Spike: Twilight!
SHUT UP! *shoots Spike* SPIKE! OH NO, I KILLED SPIKE! Okay, I need to get out of here before I kill anymore innocent My Little Pony characters! *leaves*
Pinkie Pie: Surprise!
*gunshot*
PINKIE!!! OH, PINKIE, PLEASE FORGIVE ME! "DE VILLAGE ELDER" MADE ME DO IT!
Pinkie: I...I understand.
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Post by Stirfry on Nov 17, 2013 18:32:47 GMT -5
You know, I think this review would work much better if you did it in video form.
Anyway most of the things you have problems with are supposed to be jokes. Excluding chickens from the curse because her pet wanted them excluded was a joke about how much the witch loved chickens.
The kiss thing was also a joke about fairy tale cliches and it did work with the pacing of the story actually.
And Spot's assumption about their memories was actually quite logical. What other explanations are there for everyone forgetting about the town? There are really no other logical explanations to quote Sherlock Holmes, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." and it is quite impossible for them to have forgotten about it any other way than the curse.
I think the way to enjoy this story is to just relax and have fun with it like with any cartoon episode really.
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Post by Two-Tone on Feb 16, 2015 7:22:42 GMT -5
I've been thinking about something, as we know somehow the de Vil bloodline escaped DeVilville though I do wonder if somehow Rebecca's family bloodline also escaped around the same time the de Vil family bloodline did (and no before anybody asks not with Rebecca herself escaping) and quite possibly set the foundation of what would eventually be the future bloodline of Pongo or Perdita. If this were true then it could be said that Lucky, Rolly, and Cadpig came face to face with their ancestor Rebecca
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 16:13:24 GMT -5
It could be possible, Two-Tone, I've been meaning to actually work on that theory when I first thought of that, I did go to Wikia and found out that she does look like Oddball but with Spots and an Irish accent, I wonder if she was a reference to her if that was the case though.
Getting back on Topic, it could be possible, cause I've been thinking that she was a member of either Pongo and Perdita's family.
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