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Post by Belchic on Apr 5, 2011 17:01:44 GMT -5
Hey there. I'm trying to compile a list of movies that are not based on any books, stage plays, etc., but rather original ideas by the screen writers. These are by far the only ones I can think of that are:
The Land Before Time The Lion King Spirited Away Lady and the Tramp Click Digby Avatar Alien All Dogs Go To Heaven Rubber Back to the Future Crocodile Dundee Gone in 60 Seconds Bullit Napoleon Dynamite Star Wars Indiana Jones Outland The Junkman Lethal Weapon Under Seige On Deadly Ground
If anyone knows of any others, please let me know so I can update this list.
And no, The Lion King is not unoriginal just because some people think it's ripping off Hamlet!
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Post by Kit on Apr 5, 2011 17:08:19 GMT -5
I think it was officially stated that the Lion King is based off of the story of Hamlet while the sequel is based off of Romeo and Juliet.
I also think Spirited away is based on a book if not just a lot of myths. The character of Yubaba appears in several, for example.
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Post by babclayman on Apr 5, 2011 17:13:53 GMT -5
Yeah, LK was pretty much Hamlet, Like Kit says...Also, I say, LK was Bambi. As it's, Prince is born, Parent gets killed, Grows up, Hooks up with someone he knew in his youth, big fire, Film clos with him looking down from a rock as his Child is born. What do Disney have with Shakespeare for those Films? o.o
Although, I think, Lady & Tramp was an Original Idea, I think, Cassablanca was based on a Play...
How about, Click or Digby (Biggest Dog In The World), do those count? =3
I do wonder what Movies will pop up on here, Pups. *Hugs* X3
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Post by Bishop on Apr 5, 2011 17:32:47 GMT -5
I thought that Avatar was a pretty original movie. trollface.jpg
Not that I'm good at this sort of thing without prior research, but how about Alien?
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Post by Belchic on Apr 5, 2011 17:42:16 GMT -5
When I say original ideas, I mean based on a specific book, stage play, or if it's a remake on another film. I'm not talking about similar plotlines (like LK, for example) or anything like that.
As for all those films bab and Bishop listed, I checked Wikipedia, and none of them say they were based on any book or play, so I'll add them.
Though I will say that I've never heard of that Digby movie, nor can I find any info on it.
For those of you who are giving suggestions, I might want to suggest you refrain from giving me any fairly recent comedies or dramas that take place in modern times.
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Post by babclayman on Apr 6, 2011 3:46:28 GMT -5
What part of, Disney officially announced that LK was based on Hamlet, don't you get?
Your logic is abit flawed, you're pretty much saying it only counts if it's by name only. It doesn't matter if the names differ, it's still not a completely original idea. ^^;
Also, I said in my post, Cassablanca was based on a play.
And I believe, Bishop was joking on the Avata thing, I mean everyone knows it's Dances With Wolves. ^^;
Still, I wonder what actual original films, we can list here, Pups. *Hugs* X3
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Post by RaceFanX on Apr 6, 2011 11:53:09 GMT -5
The new comedy/horror/drama "Rubber" isn't based on anything. Hollywood finally has an original idea, it's a tire that rolls around on its own killing people but it's an original idea none the less.
"Back to the Future," "The Terminator" and "Crocodile Dundee" were both original ideas. So was the original "Gone in 60 Seconds" and its pseudo followup "The Junkman." Neither was "Bullitt." "High Noon" was original and while Sean Connery's film "Outland" drew themes from it that film was original as well. "Lethal Weapon" wasn't based on anything either. "Napolean Dynamite" was a huge hit because it was very original.
Pretty much every film ever to qualify for "Best Original Screenplay" at the Oscars counts. That's what the award is for. Being true stories out to film for the first time a lot of documentaries probably qualify as well such as "Roger and Me" and a personal favorite of mine "Dust to Glory."
While "Avatar" does rip a lot of its plot off from Dances with Wolves it's not actually a remake of anything.
While a lot of today's high profile films are based on true stories or comics or remakes the fact is the vast majority of films probably aren't based on anything.
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Post by RaceFanX on Apr 6, 2011 11:59:41 GMT -5
"Bullitt" was original, I phrased that wrong.
"On Deadly Ground" was original, so was "Under Siege," "Star Wars" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (Raiders was based on the idea of old movie serials but the story, settings and characters were all original)
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Post by Belchic on Apr 6, 2011 13:13:45 GMT -5
Bab, I think you're taking what I'm saying WAY too seriously. You get on me about overreacting all the time, so why can't I? I think Race makes a solid point in his post. Some of the movies he mentioned like "Raiders" were inspired by some already-done ideas, but the story, settings and characters were all original. Lion King falls under that same category: it was INSPIRED by Hamlet, but it wasn't BASED on Hamlet; Disney announced that they had no intentions of the film representing Hamlet; from what I see, it was the fans who speculated that.
Although, Race, I think I will have to disagree with you about Star Wars. Star Wars was based on hundreds of different stories rolled into one. James Rolfe said in his review of the Star Wars franchise that George Lucas was inspired by so many different movies, genres and epic stories to make Star Wars and pretty much rolled them into one.
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Post by RaceFanX on Apr 6, 2011 15:12:42 GMT -5
The first Star Wars was original. As you said it was inspired by many stories but it was its own original story with new characters and settings much like its sibling "Raiders."
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Post by Paws on Apr 6, 2011 15:44:32 GMT -5
There are only a few that are coming to mind. Such as "All Dogs Go To Heaven" (we can pretty much safely say that almost every Don Bluth movie is an original idea ). I'm pretty sure "Lilo and Stitch" and "Dumbo" are original, but I DO know that "Dumbo" was inspired by a really old, really rare out-of-print picture book about an elephant with large ears. A lot of the Pixar movies get a prize for being original ideas too, so you can just rack 'em up on the list. I'll name some more later, I need to leave for tutoring now.
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Post by Belchic on Apr 7, 2011 0:16:53 GMT -5
There are only a few that are coming to mind. Such as "All Dogs Go To Heaven" (we can pretty much safely say that almost every Don Bluth movie is an original idea ). I'm pretty sure "Lilo and Stitch" and "Dumbo" are original, but I DO know that "Dumbo" was inspired by a really old, really rare out-of-print picture book about an elephant with large ears. A lot of the Pixar movies get a prize for being original ideas too, so you can just rack 'em up on the list. I'll name some more later, I need to leave for tutoring now. Funny you should mention that Paws, because I was thinking of adding that one to my list.
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Post by Belchic on Apr 10, 2011 18:39:08 GMT -5
I think it's time this was revealed. The whole reason I'm asking this is because I'm trying to come up with a ficitional person (like I did with Eli Disney and Eddie Ravenscroft), and this person is going to be an author. I'm trying to make it seem like this person was the author of certain books and to make it look like these movies (which are not based on any books) to be film adaptations of his books. So far, I'm planning to have him be the author of "The Land Before Time", "The Lion King", "Spirited Away" and "All Dogs Go to Heaven", but I'm not sure on the others I have listed above.
While I do appreciate you guys namin these films, there are still a few things I have problems with. First of all, some of the movies that are listed like "Click" and "Inception" are recent comedies and dramas that take place in modern times, and I was intending to have this fictional novelist be someone who was born in the 1910's and who died in the 1990's. See the time paradox? Also, I feel that "Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones" should not be touched by anyone but their creator.
So you see, I'm trying to work from that list of movies above to see what may qualify as this person's books. Right now, I'm currently thinking through the events that occur in "The Land Before Time" and "The Lion King", and I'm trying to think of some things that happen differently in the books. If anyone would like to hear about them, feel free to PM me about it or request me to start a new topic.
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