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Post by babclayman on Apr 14, 2011 12:49:51 GMT -5
Hey, Pups! ;3 BabClayton here. =3 I figure, since we need a bit more Discussion on, "101 Dalmatians" here, I ask this Question. ;3 What do you think of the Vandercreams? They are Aunt Coco & Uncle Beamer, a Rich Side of the Dearly Family, whom Pongo & Perdita allow Lucky to stay with, when Lucky complains on feeling too Crowded. The Vandercreams live in a Big Mansion with their Butler Gielgud close to I believe a Dog Park. They must live in a Neighbourhood filled with Rich Dogs, I guess. I usually see them as Well Meaning Dalmatians, of course, they can be a Bit Snooty at times, but like said, still Nice. Of course, here are some Areas for Discussion... Whose Side of the Dearly Family are the Vandercreams On? Pongo or Perdita? And also, which one is related to the Dearlys? Coco or Beamer? Another Question is, Where are their Humans? I mean, True we got, Gielgud but other than Him, We don't know where the Humans are. Also, What are your views on the two, What you think they're like? And what you think may have happened if they appeared in "101 Dalmatians The Series" more often. *Hugs* X3 Still, If you Pups would like to add anything to this Discussion, It would be good. =3 Get us talking on, "101 Dalmatians", like this Forum is made for us to do. *Hugs* X3 Looking forward to hearing your views on this, Pups. *Hugs* X3
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Post by Cuddly Dearly on Apr 14, 2011 13:03:47 GMT -5
speaking of family relationships, I think that Beamer is Pongo's brother, simply because he is more similar to Pongo than Coco to Perdita.
and speaking of their humans.... I think that it's symbolic, that Gielgud is actually their human "pet", but the metaphore is in the idea that he loves his dogs so much that he acts like their butler, instead of being their owner ;D
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Post by Nemo on Apr 14, 2011 15:33:43 GMT -5
Aside from looking like the 'sterotypical snooty rich person' characters, I think they're pretty interesting and should've been in more episodes But Coco looks like she has a slight underbite.. probably just me.
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Post by growltarist on Apr 14, 2011 20:54:28 GMT -5
I liked the addition of these two characters for the one episode they were in (orrr, one that I saw, in any case - if there's any more than that >w<). I have to agree that Uncle Beamer shows more similarities to Pongo than Coco to Perdita. To me, they looked like they both have a bit of an under bite... and I can only wonder if they develop their fangs from chewing real meat as opposed to kibble. xD Probably the case. I thought it was interesting seeing a couple of the dalmatians's ancestors. Ones that are especially ironic in being rich as opposed to the farm that their grandchildren live in.
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Post by babclayman on Apr 15, 2011 4:20:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Growlie is right with the Underbite thing. ;3 I did notice that too, Nemo. At first I thought they were from some sort of Cave Tribe or something, of course, Growlie does make a point.
Their Canine Teeth develop more due to their Well Bred Diet of Proper Meat. ;3 And it is an amusing thought, Of the Butler being the Actual Human, Cuddly. X3
I feel, Coco is more on Perdita's Side of the Family. My reasoning being, Pongo doesn't usually seem the type to come from the Well Bred Background, either that or just happened to be chance on who adopted them. Second, Perdita is the one whom seems more sure on what Lucky will do when with the Vandercreams. Also, If you look at Coco, she has a bit of Dipstick Head to her, so maybe that's where his Gene came in. o.o
Of course, I will admit, Beamer does look like Pongo. ;3
Of course, Other question that rises from me is...Who is Beamer's Voice Artist? I can sort of guess from Coco's voice, she's April Witchell (You can hear a bit of Cruella in her voice), but I do wonder, Who voices Beamer. =3 Do you Pups have any idea? ^-^
Looking forward to hearing more of your views on this, Pups. *Hugs* X3
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Post by Bishop on May 1, 2011 18:27:08 GMT -5
Also, If you look at Coco, she has a bit of Dipstick Head to her, so maybe that's where his Gene came in. o.o Oh wow, I had completely forgotten that I had been meaning to comment on this. Coco and Dipstick have the same grey eyelids as well. It could have just been eyeshadow on Coco, but with the similar head shapes bab mentioned I think that Coco is the one blood related to the pups. Furthermore, Perdita does act quite quite high class in the (first) movie. The scene in the park, for instance. So in my eyes, Coco is Perdita's sister.
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