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Post by Trey_Vore on Nov 7, 2012 4:10:06 GMT -5
It looks like the election is over.
President Obama just won his second term in office over Mitt Romney.
I am happy with this choice.
Let's try to be sincere and intelligent here.
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Post by RaceFanX on Nov 7, 2012 7:43:05 GMT -5
I didn't vote for him, too bad so sad. Here's wishing him a solid four years and I hope he's a better American leader in the second term.
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Post by Cruella on Nov 7, 2012 8:44:04 GMT -5
"Oh, it was a dream! A hideous dream. A long hideous dream. It's morning." - A Christmas Cruella, and my thoughts about the dread around the 2012 U.S. Presidential Elections I was genuinely afraid of Romney winning. I don't know if talking politics is taboo on these boards, but I'm so glad Romney didn't win and more good people were elected to join Obama.
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Post by Snivinerior on Nov 7, 2012 9:43:55 GMT -5
Yeah, so I heard... but the big question is: does it make any difference?
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Post by Nemo on Nov 7, 2012 10:34:46 GMT -5
I voted for him.. so I'm happy :3
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 10:54:30 GMT -5
Yay me and my family thought Romney was an a**hole anyway so it's all good
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Post by babclayman on Nov 7, 2012 11:47:08 GMT -5
Ah, Four More Years, Eh?
Well, I felt that we needed to give him more time as well. Romney was asking for Five Years with his Plan, so he can't complain on Obama not fixing all the Worlds problems forever in just Four Years. Romney's Smile sort of made me feel iffy as well. ^^;
I heard reports in some Polling Stations there was an error where someone pressed Obama, but Romney was selected. They had a picture too. Anyone else hear of that?
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Post by Paws on Nov 7, 2012 12:31:08 GMT -5
My mom hated Romney's smile. We were watching the election last night, stayed up and everything, and when it was announced that Obama won my mom kept going "I'm so glad he and his smug smile aren't elected!"
I'm really happy that Obama won, personally. Seeing Romney's track record with everything he did when he was governor and before, plus all the rights he was trying to revoke...I'm just so glad he's not a posing threat. I wish a happy four more years for Obama. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Kit on Nov 7, 2012 14:31:00 GMT -5
I, like many others, do not possess an American citizenship so no vote for me. I will refrain from making any comments on either of the candidates.
Something I do wanna comment on is watching clips from the election campaign. I had forgotten how much charisma actually plays a part in getting votes in the states. How face-value actually has something to say. Considering the last prominent charismatic European leaders aimed for world domination, it's probably due to tradition why such profiling is not so common over here =P
I gotta admit it was a little embarrassing to watch Bruce Springsteen sing some rhyme about "voting for Obama cause he got Osama" - I'm sure that's nice, but should not the voting mainly focus on what the candidates aim to do in the future?
Not that politics, or voters can't be embarrassing in my country either: As a stunt, one of our news channels did a panel on the streets asking people if they where happy with Obama winning the elections 12 hours before the results were announced. Many people agreed as if they knew it for a fact, saying that they were happy for him - the ignorance was like a thick fog in the air... x)
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Post by Sweeney Terrier on Nov 7, 2012 15:20:18 GMT -5
The way I see it, the majority of the public, (that apparently has the effect on the future, [even thought Congress rules the gov. here]), are blind to the truth. That, and it's so easy to manipulate someone when you got a LOT of $$$$$$. *Refers to info on the 1920's to prove it*. That stuff is still going on now. I'd hate to say it, but MANY humans, (not trying to offend any of you), are manipulated by greed. If I've offended, I'm sorry.
Honestly, I don't care for either candidate, (though, I'm vaguely more on Obama's side). My mom, and my sister both agree with me on this: We'd prefer NEITHER person in office.
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Post by RaceFanX on Nov 7, 2012 15:30:56 GMT -5
Residents of Kit's country be pleased with a US president's election? Freaky, that'd be like Americans being pleased if a PM stayed in power (Good luck finding anyone in the USA for example who even knows who Fredrik Reinfeldt is... even I had to google him).
"Considering the last prominent charismatic European leaders aimed for world domination, it's probably due to tradition why such profiling is not so common over here"
Could that also have something to do with the nature of most European elections where people vote for the party and the party itself appoints their Prime Minister? In the USA system the people have a more direct vote on its leaders (although not entirely direct, it's complicated). I'm sure both systems seem wierd to outsiders, a system with a PM would NEVER fly in the USA given our tendency to distrust the government no matter who is in power.
Interesting fact for our non-American members, no matter how Obama does in his second term he can never again run for or be President once it ends in Jan. 2017. By US law you can only be elected President for a maximum of two terms which he now has, that's actually a rather new law that was only put in the country's Constitution in 1951. Traditionally before that Presidents only sought two terms following on the precedent set by the original President George Washington, who surrendered his power after two terms for eight years in office (he was basically offered a lifetime position but walked away instead, "I did not defeat George III so I could become George I."). Only Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was an exception, after being elected in 1932 and 1936 leading the country through the Great Depression Roosevelt choose to run again in 1940 and 1944 because of issues relating to World War II believing the country needed a continuous leader during the rough time. By 1944 his health was failing and he died very early in his fourth term, even some Democrats thought that fourth term attempt was a mistake and the term limit amendment had support pretty much across the board afterward.
Romney could run again in 2016 but almost certainly won't, Presidental losers rarely come back for another attempt but it is legal to do so (If we didn't want you then why would we want you now?). Some do as Adlai Stevenson ran in 1952 and lost then tried again in 1956 and lost again while Richard Nixon lost to JFK in 1960 but came back to win in 1968 and be re-elected in 1972... although Watergate forced him out of office during his second term.
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Post by Belchic on Nov 7, 2012 16:41:42 GMT -5
Well, if you guys are happy that Obama won, then I guess I am too.
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Post by Kit on Nov 7, 2012 16:42:10 GMT -5
Residents of Kit's country be pleased with a US president's election? Freaky, that'd be like Americans being pleased if a PM stayed in power (Good luck finding anyone in the USA for example who even knows who Fredrik Reinfeldt is... even I had to google him). Hmmm, no, I don't think I can agree with this comparison. Remember that the US still has a large influence on this world and it's multi-national organizations, whereas a small country as mine can do next to nothing. Either if USA's future concerns us or not can probably be debated, but it's still worth keeping an eye to what's going on in one of the most powerful countries in the world. I agree that the prime minister of my country has terrible little relevance to an American unless you are for some reason, particularly interested in Scandinavian politics. But say something happened to Berlusconi or Putin? I'm sure at least some Americans would look at that with interest. As for people's (enlightened or not) positive reaction to Obama here, that can probably be explained on the most basic level that he's not a republican. Republicans has traditionally embraced a religious message, being against gay marriage and against the practice of abortion, something that doesn't strike a chord with the majority here. A certain quote from the campaign stated that if a woman gets pregnant from sexual assault, it was god's intention. Stuff like that is very hard to stomach and made headlines, understandably. (This was no insignificant memer of the party, but I'm pretty sure they threw him out after that statement) - Never the less, it paints a picture so to say for the person not aware of what politics the candidate actually runs. This is a gross over-simplification and generalization though. Among my friends, a few rooted for Romney as well. "Considering the last prominent charismatic European leaders aimed for world domination, it's probably due to tradition why such profiling is not so common over here"Could that also have something to do with the nature of most European elections where people vote for the party and the party itself appoints their Prime Minister? In the USA system the people have a more direct vote on its leaders (although not entirely direct, it's complicated). I'm sure both systems seem wierd to outsiders, a system with a PM would NEVER fly in the USA given our tendency to distrust the government no matter who is in power. No, I don't think so. Despite voting indirectly for the party like you say, the parties are still represented by a leader who in most cases will fill the duties of PM. So each party still has a familiar face, so to say. I was not trying to illegitimize how one or the other runs a campaign, merely pointing out the difference and how running a similar campaign would NEVER fly here My "historical" theory of why it is generally preferred for politicians to keep a more low key profile here was only a silly speculation. My point was that my continent might be stuck with impressions of it's own history. I was not comparing... ah forget it, that was probably obvious. Long text is long. Interesting fact for our non-American members, no matter how Obama does in his second term he can never again run for or be President once it ends in Jan. 2017. By US law you can only be elected President for a maximum of two terms which he now has, that's actually a rather new law that was only put in the country's Constitution in 1951. Traditionally before that Presidents only sought two terms following on the precedent set by the original President George Washington, who surrendered his power after two terms for eight years in office (he was basically offered a lifetime position but walked away instead, "I did not defeat George III so I could become George I."). Only Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was an exception, after being elected in 1932 and 1936 leading the country through the Great Depression Roosevelt choose to run again in 1940 and 1944 because of issues relating to World War II believing the country needed a continuous leader during the rough time. By 1944 his health was failing and he died very early in his fourth term, even some Democrats thought that fourth term attempt was a mistake and the term limit amendment had support pretty much across the board afterward. Romney could run again in 2016 but almost certainly won't, Presidental losers rarely come back for another attempt but it is legal to do so (If we didn't want you then why would we want you now?). Some do as Adlai Stevenson ran in 1952 and lost then tried again in 1956 and lost again while Richard Nixon lost to JFK in 1960 but came back to win in 1968 and be re-elected in 1972... although Watergate forced him out of office during his second term. I know.
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Post by Belchic on Nov 7, 2012 16:46:08 GMT -5
Residents of Kit's country be pleased with a US president's election? Freaky, that'd be like Americans being pleased if a PM stayed in power (Good luck finding anyone in the USA for example who even knows who Fredrik Reinfeldt is... even I had to google him). "Considering the last prominent charismatic European leaders aimed for world domination, it's probably due to tradition why such profiling is not so common over here"Could that also have something to do with the nature of most European elections where people vote for the party and the party itself appoints their Prime Minister? In the USA system the people have a more direct vote on its leaders (although not entirely direct, it's complicated). I'm sure both systems seem wierd to outsiders, a system with a PM would NEVER fly in the USA given our tendency to distrust the government no matter who is in power. Interesting fact for our non-American members, no matter how Obama does in his second term he can never again run for or be President once it ends in Jan. 2017. By US law you can only be elected President for a maximum of two terms which he now has, that's actually a rather new law that was only put in the country's Constitution in 1951. Traditionally before that Presidents only sought two terms following on the precedent set by the original President George Washington, who surrendered his power after two terms for eight years in office (he was basically offered a lifetime position but walked away instead, "I did not defeat George III so I could become George I."). Only Democrat Franklin Roosevelt was an exception, after being elected in 1932 and 1936 leading the country through the Great Depression Roosevelt choose to run again in 1940 and 1944 because of issues relating to World War II believing the country needed a continuous leader during the rough time. By 1944 his health was failing and he died very early in his fourth term, even some Democrats thought that fourth term attempt was a mistake and the term limit amendment had support pretty much across the board afterward. Romney could run again in 2016 but almost certainly won't, Presidental losers rarely come back for another attempt but it is legal to do so (If we didn't want you then why would we want you now?). Some do as Adlai Stevenson ran in 1952 and lost then tried again in 1956 and lost again while Richard Nixon lost to JFK in 1960 but came back to win in 1968 and be re-elected in 1972... although Watergate forced him out of office during his second term. Uh...that comment was a bit racist, wouldn't you say, Race?
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Post by Dana on Nov 7, 2012 16:55:10 GMT -5
I am very happy that Obama won the election. Here's to another four years
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