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Post by Belchic on Jan 25, 2017 13:09:23 GMT -5
No, bab. Finding Dory being a sequel has nothing to do with it not being nominated. According to what I know, the Academy is required to have at least one foreign independent film in the category, hence why The Red Turtle and My Life as a Zucchini made the cut. Also, they have a rule to include one stop-motion-animated film, which is why Kubo made the cut.
My only guess is they only chose the best based on what they saw out of what was submitted to them. I'm not sure why they didn't choose Finding Dory, but definitely not because it was a sequel; there have been plenty of sequels that got nominated like Despicable Me 2, and Toy Story 3 even won!
If it makes you feel any better, bab, Piper has been nominated for Best Animated Short (and you still have yet to answer my question as to why you think I like it). I am a little surprised Inner Workings didn't get nominated despite all the praise I've been hearing about it.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jan 30, 2017 12:43:12 GMT -5
I still don't think it's fair that they had to put two films from Walt Disney Feature Animation in the same category. Even though they both very much deserve a nomination, it doesn't seem fair on the other studios. If you want my honest opinion, I'm predicting "Moana" is going to win for Best Animated Feature. Even though Zootopia got much better reviews and made a lot more money, if you think about it, Moana seems more like a film the academy would choose as the winner. Why do you think Brave won over Wreck-It Ralph back in 2013? Well Brave winning over Wreck-It Ralph proved to be a rather controversial choice didn't it? It told people that the Academy doesn't take that award seriously. But you know what? It's fine. Brave needed that award. Wreck-It Ralph, ParaNorman, Frankenweenie and The Pirates! Band of Misfits didn't need their statue to prove they were amazing movies. They knew that was the case, which was why Frozen was more or less locked for the win next year. People were also pretty happy that Big Hero 6 won over How to Train Your Dragon 2. If nothing else Finding Dory is not the first Pixar film to not be nominated for the award. Like RaceFanX says The Good Dinosaur did not receive a nomination, and neither did Cars 2 or Monsters University.
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Post by Belchic on Jan 30, 2017 13:54:03 GMT -5
Well, another thing you need to consider is Moana has also been nominated for Best Original Song, whereas Zootopia hasn't been nominated for anything else, and if an animated film is nominated for more than just Best Animated Feature, that should be a hint it has a stronger chance of winning; that was the case with films like WALL-E, Frozen and Inside-Out.
As for Pixar, Race is right. Toy Story, Toy Story 2 and A Bug's Life didn't get a nomination, but they were released before that category was established. Other than that, Cars 2, Monsters University, The Good Dinosaur and Finding Dory are the only Pixar films to not be nominated. Monsters Inc. and Cars are the only ones that were nominated but didn't win this far.
Still, since Best Animated Feature was established in the Oscars, Pixar still holds the record for the most wins with eight victories.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Jan 31, 2017 18:49:43 GMT -5
You also need to remember Zootopia wasn't really a musical. It also just won the Golden Globe didn't it?
And "How Far I'll Go"? I'd rather nominate "You're Welcome".
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Post by Belchic on Jan 31, 2017 19:34:37 GMT -5
You also need to remember Zootopia wasn't really a musical. It also just won the Golden Globe didn't it? And "How Far I'll Go"? I'd rather nominate "You're Welcome". "You're Welcome" got annoying pretty quickly. Also, "Shiny" is quite possibly the worst Disney Villain song ever written. I don't know why everybody loves those songs so much.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Feb 1, 2017 13:15:54 GMT -5
I don't know. When AniMat was giving his picks for Best and Worst Animated Films of the year he wasn't playing "How Far I'll Go".
Anyway here's an except from the review at ultimatedisney.com:
Being a Disney animated musical fairy tale gives Moana weight that other original animated movies can never know. But it also introduces the weight of expectations and comparisons. Moana will need more than multiple viewings to stand up to the gold standards of your favorite Disney movies and songs. In fact, you may have to be under the age of 12 and not attached to any of the studio's many beloved musicals to embrace this fully. But as Frozen demonstrated, there are many, many children who meet those requirements and are ready to share their love. Moana has more to offer and more to like than Frozen, although it's not nearly as Broadway-ready as that 2013 box office titan.
It's also not quite as Oscar-ready. Moana has timing on its side, but two better movies from the same studio are competing for the same Best Animated Feature Oscar: the aforementioned Zootopia and Pixar's Finding Dory. Is there a chance that the three will cannibalize each other's votes, opening up the path for something from another studio to emerge victorious? Perhaps, but nothing else this year has been in the same league as those three while making the type of public impact that is almost always required for winning that award. Moana probably stands a better shot at winning the Best Original Song Oscar, where competition is typically not that intense. But Disney and Pixar have dominated Animated Feature, so it seems reasonable to assume one of the three could keep the company's streak alive.
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Post by babclayman on Feb 1, 2017 18:36:01 GMT -5
I think we also need to consider the case of Animation, with Moana.
Some thing, which is good, about Moana, is how they are able to have two types of Animation work together, and in a really good manner. While the Film is C G I, They are able to work Cel Animation in, with Maui's Tattoo and "You're Welcome" Number being a good exampl of that. So, it is possible that the use of Animation may help in the case of Moana.
Moana & Zootopia are both really good Films, though; it depends what they judge the Film on, to see who may get the Oscar. If they look at the Film for Story, Zootopia may get the Oscar; but, if they look at it for Animation, Moana may get the Oscar.
So, Like I claim, it depends on what they look at, when they are wtching the Film. You Know, what I mean, Pups? ;3
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Post by Trey_Vore on Feb 7, 2017 16:35:32 GMT -5
I would think story would mean more than animation.
In any case I will wait to see what happens.
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Post by Belchic on Feb 8, 2017 13:06:33 GMT -5
I have to agree with Trey on this one, bab. The Academy looks at more than just the animation when deciding what film will win the Oscar.
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Post by Belchic on Feb 22, 2017 18:05:48 GMT -5
Well, this Sunday is when the Oscars will be held. This is when we will find out which animated film won the Oscar. I still predict it'll be Moana.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Feb 26, 2017 22:13:54 GMT -5
YES!
The Academy Award for Best Animated Feature Film went to Zootopia!
SO happy for that victory!
Win for the furries!
WOOT!
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Post by Belchic on Feb 26, 2017 23:29:59 GMT -5
Really? Even though I was in doubt, it still beat out Moana. I guess this is the third victory for Walt Disney Feature Animation.
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Post by Belchic on Feb 27, 2017 10:47:18 GMT -5
This isn't really animated movie news, but it was announced that La La Land had won for Best Picture, but it turned out they got the envelopes mixed up and had to apologize to everyone. The winner was actually Moonlight. I know a lot of people are pissed off over this. Not just the people who worked on La La Land, but the fans of the film as well.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Mar 5, 2017 5:24:11 GMT -5
The awards aren't finished just yet guys. We still have one more: Nickelodeon's Kids' Choice Awards.
On Nick.com you can cast a vote for your favorites and yes, they do have an animated movie award. The nominees are:
Finding Dory Moana The Secret Life of Pets Sing Trolls Zootopia
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Post by babclayman on Mar 5, 2017 11:13:36 GMT -5
I think Shadow tld me, Finding Dory got the Tee Choice Awards, didn' it?
The list here seems intriguing, I see Disney has three of the five nominations; though, what do they base their nominations on?
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