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Post by RaceFanX on Sept 24, 2013 21:25:19 GMT -5
Cartoons, they're a wild format where literally anything can happen. It's made them popular with viewers of all ages and their characters some of the most iconic in fiction. But what are the best. TV Guide is turning 60 in 2013 and so to celebrate they've created a list of the 60 greatest cartoon shows of all time. The top-10 were as follows with a mix of classic and current animated series...
1. "The Simpsons" 2. "The Flintstones" 3. "Looney Tunes" 4. "Peanuts" (all the specials, Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show, etc.) 5. "Scooby-Doo" 6. "Rocky and His Friends/The Bullwinkle Show" 7. "Batman: The Animated Series" 8. "SpongeBob SquarePants" 9. "Family Guy" 10. "South Park"
The positions of the other 50 won't be released but they did give the full list including some great classics of yesteryear, some critical acclaimed toons of recent history and a few shows still in production from several studios. The other shows in alphabetical order were... "Adventure Time" "Animaniacs" "Archer" "Avatar: The Last Airbender" "Batman Beyond" "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" "Battle of the Planets" "Beavis and Butt-Head" "Bob's Burgers" "Daria" "Dexter's Laboratory" "Dora the Explorer" "Drawn Together" "The Fairly OddParents" "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids" "Futurama" "George of the Jungle" "Gravity Falls" "He-Man and the Masters of the Universe" "The Huckleberry Hound Show" "Iron Man: Armored Adventures" "Jem and the Holograms" "The Jetsons" "Jonny Quest" "Josie and the P*ssycats" "Justice League/Justice League Unlimited" "Kim Possible" "King of the Hill" "The Magilla Gorilla Show" "Mighty Mouse" "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic" "Phineas and Ferb" "The Pink Panther Show" "Pinky and the Brain" "Popeye the Sailor" "The Powerpuff Girls" "Ren & Stimpy" "Rugrats" "Samurai Jack" "The Smurfs" "The Spectacular Spider-Man" "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" "Super Friends" "Superman: The Animated Series" "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" "Tom and Jerry" "ThunderCats" "Underdog" "Woody Woodpecker" "The Yogi Bear Show"
What do you guys think? Seems kinda lacking in the Disney Afternoon/One Saturday Morning area but still a lot of classics. "Doug" is a pretty jarring absence since the other original Nicktoons both made it and "Recess" was so well-loved I'm surprised it missed the cut too but look at everything that did. Everyone probably knows something about each of those shows.
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Post by Belchic on Sept 24, 2013 22:03:11 GMT -5
Yay! Dexter and PPG's made the list! I'm also surprised MLP did too...it certainly deserves it just as much!
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Post by babclayman on Sept 25, 2013 5:12:06 GMT -5
Only two or three Disney shows out of a possible Fifty!? Like you mentioned Race, Recess was high in its day, along with Ducktales and Darkwing Duck?
You know what my favourite Animated show is (Guess), but that's what I consider an Under Rated Gem (Altough is still Well-Loved).
That does raise a question, what happened to the Disney Sataurday Morning and Aternoon shows? What about British Animation too? Doesn't that count on this list?
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Post by Stirfry on Sept 25, 2013 5:41:36 GMT -5
Family guy and south park in the top 10? FAMILY GUY?! Well I just lost all respect for TV guide's opinion.
But seriously, I don't get how a short lived Cartoon, like George Of The Jungle gets a spot in the top 50 and Duck tales doesn't? I mean really, it only has 27 episodes.
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Post by Two-Tone on Sept 25, 2013 5:49:47 GMT -5
Actually General I think they might be referring to the original George of the Jungle from the 60s
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Post by Stirfry on Sept 25, 2013 5:56:11 GMT -5
Actually General I think they might be referring to the original George of the Jungle from the 60s That one was even worse. It only had 17 episodes and lasted for 1 year. Yet, somehow this short lived 60's series gets a movie and a sequel and a second slightly less, but still short lived series remake. This makes little sense to me. It's really obscure and I'm sure there are plenty of people who have never heard of it. I didn't even know it had a TV series when the movie was released. I think there are many more qualified shows to go in the top 50 than that.
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Post by Belchic on Sept 25, 2013 9:22:12 GMT -5
Family guy and south park in the top 10? FAMILY GUY?! Well I just lost all respect for TV guide's opinion. Hey! I don't like Spongebob, Simpsons, Scooby-Doo or Batman very much, but I'm not complaining about it! Also, babclayman, if you're looking at lists like these just to see 101 Dalmatians on there, then why bother? You know it's never going to make a list like this, unless that list was made by somebody on this board. Also, what British animation are you referring to?
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Post by RaceFanX on Sept 25, 2013 10:43:26 GMT -5
If you don't like 101 Belchic no one is making you stay here. I think it's just an American list, TV Guide is an American publication. There doesn't seem to be any Japanese cartoons on there even though a few of them have had lasting impacts on US culute (Speed Racer, Sailor Moon, Dragonball Z).
The only British cartoons I can think of that was a hit in the USA is Danger Mouse (he was on Nickeleodeon and did well because kids and adults liked it), maybe its spinoff Count Duckula too. Thomas the Tank Engine was huge but was't a cartoon and Wallace and Gromit have never had a true animated series so that's probably why they weren't there.
Shaun the Sheep did pretty good (lots of DVD sales) but wasn't a pop culute force, Dennis and Gnasher aired for about half a year on the Hub after it launched, Little Robots bombed out as part of Cartoon Network's failed "Tickle U" block (only Krypto the Superdog even got a second season from that block), Kipper and Pablo the Little Red Fox had solid but unspectacular runs on Nick Jr. and Disney Channel respectively (Pablo redubbed with American accents for the main characters, Kipper still very much British). For adults a full American version of Creature Comforts was made by Aardman for CBS but it tanked and got cancelled after about four episodes (of 13 made) and the BBC's Stressed Eric aired briefly on NBC (with the main character only redubbed as an American ex-pat in London) but was cancelled even quicker.
Lots of superhero shows on there, I'm surprised they listed five seperate ones for Batman but least some of the original animated ones made it too (PPG, Underdog, Last Airbender). "The Spectacular Spider-Man" beating out the classsic 1990s FOX Spider-Man animated series is odd, the 1990s show was so sharp a lot of the later versions of the world's favorite webslinger go off it more than the comics. The recent "Iron Man: Armored Adventures" seems like the odd man out on the list in general, it was a solid and well-made High School AU version of Tony Stark but I wasn't aware it was popular or critically acclaimed outside fans of the character.
"Drawn Together" was so offensively bad I'm surprised it made the list. It was fun for like the first season and a half but then it just got awful.
Interesting that He-Man, FiM, and Jem made it for toyline shows but Transformers and G.I. Joe did not. Garfield is probably ticked Snoopy made the list and he did not.
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Post by Stirfry on Sept 25, 2013 12:42:41 GMT -5
Family guy and south park in the top 10? FAMILY GUY?! Well I just lost all respect for TV guide's opinion. Hey! I don't like Spongebob, Simpsons, Scooby-Doo or Batman very much, but I'm not complaining about it! Also, babclayman, if you're looking at lists like these just to see 101 Dalmatians on there, then why bother? You know it's never going to make a list like this, unless that list was made by somebody on this board. Also, what British animation are you referring to? I'm not complaining. I'm expressing my dislike for Family Guy and South Park. There is a difference between disagreeing and complaining. I think the main difference is... um... I don't get bummed or angry that they put them in the top 10. My reaction was deliberately over the top thar. I still see a lot of deserving shows too, like My Little Pony and Avatar, and Rugrats. I strongly disagree with their choice of top 10 with the exception of Scooby Doo and the Flintstones but I really don't care.
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Post by Belchic on Sept 25, 2013 14:19:42 GMT -5
If you don't like 101 Belchic no one is making you stay here. Oh, for crying out loud, Race! Why must you always insist on putting those words into my mouth? Just because I say the show wasn't popular DOES NOT mean that I hate the series! It's one thing to misinterpret me one time, but you and several other members of this board are giving me the same things over and over and over again, and that really frustrates me! The same case goes for the whole Alicorn Twilight debate with you guys all thinking that I think Twilight's personality is going to change, which is not true! Listen, Race. If I hated 101 Dalmatians, would I have joined this board, or started a petition to release the show on DVD, or made a YouTube video asking Disney Jr. to air the rest of the episodes and not cut them? I don't think a hater of the show would take time out of their lives to do that. Seriously, I don't know where you get these ideas. You could hurt a guy's feelings saying stuff like that.
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Post by RaceFanX on Sept 26, 2013 18:43:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I took your comment out of context, that was my mistake and I'll own up to it. That said you've made those comments like that so many times that you are straight up beating a dead horse whenever you do. No one expected 101 to make this list and Bab was asking about British cartoons (which the animated 101s have never been) so it just seemed totally unneccessary that you started running your mouth about 101's lack of popularity again.
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Post by Mal on Sept 5, 2022 15:53:27 GMT -5
You when RaceFanX said Thomas The tank Engine isn't a cartoon? Well last year it got a cartoony reboot called ''All Engines Go!''.https://ttte.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_%26_Friends:_All_Engines_Go Also sorry for not giving myself an introudction. I couldn't find a way to make an account and so I'm replying as a guest.
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Post by f1master45 on Sept 5, 2022 19:28:39 GMT -5
Well thomas and friends is a cartoon, before the bad cartoony all engines go it was made with models and was millions better than whats going on with AEG right now.
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Post by Trey_Vore on Sept 8, 2022 11:02:22 GMT -5
I remember my Aesthetics teacher once put TV Guide as a lowbrow form of critical analysis and this is probably reason why.
Like you said, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Jem and the Holograms are all on the list and deserve to be, but not Transformers or G.I. Joe? And Popeye deserves better credit than he got.
Another problem I have is the fact that they have Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain. Pinky and the Brain was a spinoff from that series so one could say it's a show in its own right, but I tend to see that as well, isn't that like you are having one show occupy two spots on the same list? Is that show really THAT good?
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