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Post by Belchic on Dec 12, 2014 10:46:51 GMT -5
Personally, I don't like the live action movie as much as the animated movie, and for various reasons: 1. I don't like how they modernized the film, as it doesn't stay true to the story. 2. Cruella gets way too much screen time. I mainly watch it for the dogs. 3. The animals don't talk. That's one of the many wonders that made the animated film so cute.
I felt like bringing this up because the film played on AMC last night, and I thought babclayman would like to hear that.
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Post by babclayman on Dec 12, 2014 11:05:22 GMT -5
I think the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” to be a really good Film, with a good cast and with a lot of good humour in it, along with really good Animal Training too. I actually have some counters to what you note; Belchic.
The good thing about; “101 Dalmatians” is that due to it’s Modern setting, it’s easily able to be set in any Modern Time and the Story plays as good, I think it’s true to the story, If you mean because the; “Live Action” one lacks a Soot Scene, it may be a bit od a difficult item to try in; “Live Action”, Correct?
With Cruella, Like you mention, because the Animals are nt abl to speak, they do need some more help with Human characters to work the story, and I think a lot of us can say that Glenn Close is the top Cruella! Roger, Anita, Nanny, Horace & Jasper also work the Film really good too, and we do get a lot of scenes with the Dalmatians too, like when Roger & Anita meet, The; “Twilight Bark” and also Wizzer with Horace & Jasper
On the Barking case, I actually don’ mind that case, there have been some cases where some Live Action Films, where Canines speak do get a bit awkward, like say; Undrdog or that Marmdke Film, You Know? And the way that the Dalmatians, Canines and Animals act are really good, and you get a good idea of what they may mean, with how they act.
Like mention, while the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians is probably the tp of the two, the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” has a really good cast, like Glenn Close as the top Cruella, Good Humour and the Animal Training is good too. And you also have to say that it's possible that the; "Live Action" "101 Dalmatians" is the reason we also have; "101 Dalmatians The Series" too, So that's Good, Correct? ;3
I know BBC are airing the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians” at Christmas too, so that’s good, Eh? ;3
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Post by Belchic on Dec 12, 2014 11:47:12 GMT -5
I think the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” to be a really good Film, with a good cast and with a lot of good humour in it, along with really good Animal Training too. I actually have some counters to what you note; Belchic. The good thing about; “101 Dalmatians” is that due to it’s Modern setting, it’s easily able to be set in any Modern Time and the Story plays as good, I think it’s true to the story, If you mean because the; “Live Action” one lacks a Soot Scene, it may be a bit od a difficult item to try in; “Live Action”, Correct? With Cruella, Like you mention, because the Animals are nt abl to speak, they do need some more help with Human characters to work the story, and I think a lot of us can say that Glenn Close is the top Cruella! Roger, Anita, Nanny, Horace & Jasper also work the Film really good too, and we do get a lot of scenes with the Dalmatians too, like when Roger & Anita meet, The; “Twilight Bark” and also Wizzer with Horace & Jasper On the Barking case, I actually don’ mind that case, there have been some cases where some Live Action Films, where Canines speak do get a bit awkward, like say; Undrdog or that Marmdke Film, You Know? And the way that the Dalmatians, Canines and Animals act are really good, and you get a good idea of what they may mean, with how they act. Like mention, while the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians is probably the tp of the two, the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” has a really good cast, like Glenn Close as the top Cruella, Good Humour and the Animal Training is good too. And you also have to say that it's possible that the; "Live Action" "101 Dalmatians" is the reason we also have; "101 Dalmatians The Series" too, So that's Good, Correct? ;3 I know BBC are airing the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians” at Christmas too, so that’s good, Eh? ;3 Personally, I give the animated film a 10/10, but I only give the live action film a 4/10. Sorry, but it just didn't do it for me. With the issue of modernizing not always being a bad thing. For the most part, it is, as it wouldn't make sense a lot of the time. Let's say someone made The Hunchback of Notre Dame, a story that's supposed to take place in the 1400's, but in the movie, everyone has iPhones and laptop computers? It wouldn't look right, would it? With the animal talk case, that's not always a bad thing. The Buddies movies were actually good movies. I don't know why everyone else hates them. I just don't get why everyone else seems to think the 1996 remake of 101 Dalmatians is better than the original, just like they say about The Punisher, The Fly and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, as well as other films the Nostalgia Critic did an "Old vs. New" on where he thought the remake was better.
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Post by babclayman on Dec 13, 2014 9:09:06 GMT -5
On the case of the; "Live Action" "101 Dalmatians"; I also notice that; Today is Eighteen Years since the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” airs in UK Cinema! 83
I plan to watch the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” for this! ;3 Surprising that it’s Eighteen Years, Eh?
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Post by Trey_Vore on Dec 20, 2014 5:38:39 GMT -5
Personally I prefer the live-action movie over the original animated movie. Let's just say I could tell you exactly why but let's just say the next time you are reading about someone attacking 101 Dalmatians: the Series saying it was garbage next to the 1961 movie for trivial reasons you're going to start quoting me.
It was modernized because for one thing it was released in the mid 90s and that aspect was carried over to the series. I was a bit worried that Roger's new video gaming career was going to date the movie but it didn't, and I think I like Cruella better as Anita's boss.
If you ever owned an actual Dalmatian you would know that due to the fact they were bred to be coach dogs they have a lot of energy and it was probably hard enough to keep them in one place which is probably another reason why the dogs don't talk. I mean yeah in Babe all the animals could talk but they were working with animals that could stay stationary.
I know I will stir up some controversy by saying this, but... I found the 1996 live-action movie to be better written.
I also see modern Hallmark cards where if they use 101 Dalmatians as a theme, it's closer in essence to the 1996 film.
So if I was given the choice between the two, I would pick this film.
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Post by Two-Tone on Dec 20, 2014 6:40:06 GMT -5
that and the live action movie gave us a nearly all new cast of pups for the original 15, besides Lucky (he's the only pup to appear in every incarnation of 101 Dalmatians from Dodie Smith's novel, the 1961 animated movie, the live action movie, and 101 Dalmatians the series) we also got Two-Tone, Dipstick, Wizzer, Jewel, Fidget, and Freckles. Also the movie being more modernized helped it and you can't go wrong with Dr.House and Mr.Weasely as Jasper and Horace.
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Post by babclayman on Dec 20, 2014 8:52:25 GMT -5
Like I mention, while I am more on the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians”, it is really clos, as the “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” is really good too, and each form does have really good items on it. And we got to note that Glenn Close does an Awesome Cruella. ;3
I actually have a random theory that Dr. House is actually Jasper, and considering what happens to Jasper in the; “Live Action” "101 Dalmatians", it’s probably the reason House has the cane. ^^”
Also, Technically Patch does appear in the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians”, as you see him on the Cver, and you could possible count the appearance of; “Patches” in Roger’s Game; “Escap From Devil Manor”, Correct?
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Post by Belchic on Dec 20, 2014 14:29:24 GMT -5
Okay, look out, everyone. Here comes my response! Personally I prefer the live-action movie over the original animated movie.I rest my case. Let's just say I could tell you exactly why but let's just say the next time you are reading about someone attacking 101 Dalmatians: the Series saying it was garbage next to the 1961 movie for trivial reasons you're going to start quoting me."Let's just say..." the one thing I will give this movie credit for is we probably never would have had the TV series had it not been for the popularity of the live-action movie. Though it is a shame the series fell a little under the radar. It is highly underrated, and I don't like how Disney is treating it the same way George Lucas is treating the Star Wars Holiday Special. It was modernized because for one thing it was released in the mid 90s and that aspect was carried over to the series. I was a bit worried that Roger's new video gaming career was going to date the movie but it didn't, and I think I like Cruella better as Anita's boss.Just because the movie came out in the 90's doesn't mean it has to be set in the 90's. There are many movies that take place in a past period. A good recent example would be Twelve Years A Slave. Heck, even Titanic, which came out the following year, is about an event that happened in 1912. Also, I hate to tell you this, but the video game aspect does make the movie dated; even though the Sony Playstation was new at the time, compare that to today's Wii U. If you ever owned an actual Dalmatian you would know that due to the fact they were bred to be coach dogs they have a lot of energy and it was probably hard enough to keep them in one place which is probably another reason why the dogs don't talk. I mean yeah in Babe all the animals could talk but they were working with animals that could stay stationary.I understand Dalmatians are very difficult dogs to train, but they could have at least gone for the Homeward Bound approach where the animals talk telepathically. that and the live action movie gave us a nearly all new cast of pups for the original 15, besides Lucky (he's the only pup to appear in every incarnation of 101 Dalmatians from Dodie Smith's novel, the 1961 animated movie, the live action movie, and 101 Dalmatians the series) we also got Two-Tone, Dipstick, Wizzer, Jewel, Fidget, and Freckles.WRONG!!! Freckles was not in the live action movie. He was in the animated movie. Though you are definitely right about Lucky, and it's nice that the series used a variety of pups from the different incarnations. Also the movie being more modernized helped it and you can't go wrong with Dr.House and Mr.Weasely as Jasper and Horace.Like I mention, while I am more on the; “Animated” “101 Dalmatians”, it is really clos, as the “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians” is really good too, and each form does have really good items on it.Why do you keep putting those words in quotes, bab? And we got to note that Glenn Close does an Awesome Cruella. ;3That's probably the only good thing I love about the live action film is the casting. I actually have a random theory that Dr. House is actually Jasper, and considering what happens to Jasper in the; “Live Action” "101 Dalmatians", it’s probably the reason House has the cane. ^^”Who is Doctor House? Also, Technically Patch does appear in the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians”, as you see him on the Cver, and you could possible count the appearance of; “Patches” in Roger’s Game; “Escap From Devil Manor”, Correct?So wait, the only reason they modernized this film is to use it as a marketing ploy for that game? Just like how The Wizard was a marketing ploy for Super Mario Bros. 3 (even though that game was already out in Japan at the time).
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Post by babclayman on Dec 20, 2014 17:11:04 GMT -5
I think what Two-Tone means with Freckles is that he has a Cameo in; “101 Dalmatians The Series”. I believe he’s in the; “You Say It’s Your Birthday” Episode, and I know he also appears in the; Disney Junior Items, with Lucky, too. ;3
Is that what you mean, Two-Tone? ;3
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Post by Sweeney Terrier on Dec 21, 2014 16:26:03 GMT -5
I'm just now actually watching the live action one, (on AMC on TV), and I've got a few comments, (or rather plenty), to say regarding what I've seen, (and I'm sure some of these would be considered nitpicking, rude, or so on but they're just my comments about a film, {maybe I've seen too many Nostalgia Critic videos perhaps or something }). Keep in mind, I started watching the film at the scene where the number of Perdi's puppies is declared, (in other words, the part where Perdita's puppies NEARLY amounts to a mere 14 living puppies). -It would be interesting, or ironic, if Lucky was chronologically speaking, puppy #13 -Good choice of actress for Cruella, (though I'm not sure what else Glenn Close has done aside from maybe Tarzan and the 102 Dalmatians live action film), since they needed a woman who could play insane, unstable, or bipolar. -Now I get why Dipstick is named that. -Don't get why live-action Two-Tone is named that unless it's the ears. -At first I thought Jasper was played by the guy who's the name/lead role in House M.D. but at some point I thought he was Tim Curry, (because of the look in his eye and the facial hair), but then I checked IMDB and it is House. -Do Jasper and Horace really bear a limited knowledge if CRUELLA is the one who HIRED them? -"I'll be wearing Anita's puppies! *cackle maniacally* ". You might as well be wearing Roger's and/or Anita's skin then given how you acted towards that supposition, (but then again, Cruella is one of those fools that would take fashion, material, and money, {fashion in her case}, over her own life). That's it for now but I'll be adding more as I watch it. Also, this is the 2nd role I've seen Jeff Daniels in. (the 1st one being Harry Dunne from "Dumb and Dumber", and "Dumb and Dumber To", {which wasn't that good but I think I'd prefer it over being offered the option to watch "Dumb and Dumberer"} ).
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Post by babclayman on Dec 21, 2014 16:44:34 GMT -5
Erm…That isn’t the Police that Jasper is talking to, it’s an ol’ General! How does look he look like Police? Considering that we do see Police in the; “Live Action” “101 Dalmatians”?
Well, There can’t be a reason for her nt to have a name; Two-Tone, Is there? In the Tie-In Material, where it shows; “Animated” Forms of the; “Live Action” Dalmatians, It is the case of the ears and that Two-Tone doesn’ have spots on one sied of her body.
With the Horace and Jasper case; she may nt think high of them, but they stll get the job for her. Like getting her Fur, spy on the Dearly’s and Pupnap the Dalmatians. I think in the; “Novelisation” of the; “Live Action” Film, it does show that they are a bit clumsy.
May I ask, When do they say; “Imagine if it’s ‘101’ ?" in the Film? I see the; "Live Action" "101 Dalmatians", a lot, and they don’t say that. You sure that isn’t Anita saying; “Happy that I’m having one?”, since Anita is pregnant in the; “Live Action” one too?
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Post by Belchic on Sept 18, 2015 9:53:15 GMT -5
Last night, I saw someone on YouTube do a rant about the live action movie. She loved the animated movie, but hated the live action movie. Reasons why is the same reasons I hated it. In addition to being modernized, animals not talking, and too much focus on the humans, the film also took away a lot of the heart the animated film had and eliminated all the scenes that made the animated movie so great. Not to mention, it felt too much like Home Alone (and yes, I am aware that John Hughes directed the film).
I'm just saying, everyone is allowed to be enlightened to their own opinion. If you like it, fine, but if I hate it, you should respect my opinion. There is no law stating that I am not allowed to hate this film!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 17:03:23 GMT -5
Belchic, you're just going to have to face facts and realize you're viewing the series through nostalgic rose-tinted glasses. I love the series too. It's a special part of my childhood and I loved the characters. But a lot of episodes fall flat, some of them are boring and poorly written and honestly, the coloring is rather careless. There are scenes upon scenes where Cadpig is colored with Lucky's eyes, or a red collar, or Rolly has black ears or Lucky white. I've even seen Tripod in one shot with blue pupils. The series had potential, it was a very cute concept, but it was not used to its full potential. It's a mediocre series at best and as such, Disney would probably never release it on DVD, unless for some reason they decided to remake the series again. That being SAID, it is still special to the lot of us and has a special place in our hearts, however mediocre it might be. x3
Now as far as the live action movie.. mm it's cute. I mean it's obviously pandering to a younger audience with the way the story goes along, but I did get a chuckle out of Cruella. I prefer the animated movie myself xP
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Post by babclayman on Sept 18, 2015 17:30:18 GMT -5
You nevr know, Mizan! ;3 Disney may make a Streaming Service one day, where they may have; "101 Dalmatians The Series" on it. ;3 I think Disney Channel's Video Page air; "Christmas Cruella" on their Page, and that also got a DVD relese, as; "Disney Christmas Favourites". ;3
The Dalmatians and their Personalities are really good too, with Good Voices too. I like how they even check the; "Novel", which shows Lucky's Personality and also allowing Disney to have Cadpig too. And, The fact that they were able to make Sixty-Five Episodes, in under a Year, is mst impressive too, and I am willing to frgive some Colour errors, considering how many Dalmatians, there can be.
And, it is a Show, that did wn a number of awards too, like; "Excellency In Animation" and; "Best Sound Editing" too. ;3 It's Characters and Stories still does hold up well, today, as Trey claims in his Top Ten Shows, that have Age Well List. ;3
Though, I am not sure what brings up; "101 Dalmatians The Series", in a discussion on the; "Live Action" Film.
With the; "Live Action" case, You have to note, If you did have them talking, it would get a case like the Marmduke Film, or the UndrDog Film. The training, on the Animals too, is still able to get what they think acrss, and you got to appreciate the Training too. ;3
Also, It works in a Nineties Setting, as since it's one of Disney's more Contemporary Films, it is able to be adptd in any Modern Setting too. ;3
And, we have to agre that, Glenn Close does ply the top Cruella, and the othr Performers, like Jeff Daniels, Hugh Laurie & Mark Williams are really good too. ;3
I know that, the Backlot Tour, in Disneyland Paris has Cruella's Car, and I think Disney World, has Horace & Jasper's Truck too. ;3
I also see an Image of some Props, from the Film. I hear those, who ask why there are Raccoons, in the; "Live Action" one, considering it's set in England, but one of the Props, is a News Paper that reads about Animals that escpe an Animal Center, so there is an In-Universe Reason, as to why the Raccoons are there! ;3
Doesn' Netflix, in America, have the; "Live Action" "101 Dalmatians", on there, at this time too, Pups? ;3
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Post by Belchic on Oct 28, 2016 14:50:06 GMT -5
I just learned something today. The live action film is actually a very controversial film in the Disney catalog.
When the live action film came out, Dalmatians became the must have Christmas present for children all over the world. However, this was a big mistake because what people didn't realize is that Dalmatians grow much larger when they become full-grown dogs and are extremely difficult to train. The situation became worse when the animated series came out shortly after.
This was according to Screen Rant. I guess this could be a very logical reason as to why Disney doesn't want the TV series to see the light of day ever again because of how it added to the controversial Dalmatian craze that the live action film caused.
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